Re: [PATCH 2/2] coresight: tmc: Add shutdown callback for TMC ETR/ETF

From: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	coresight@lists.linaro.org, Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] coresight: tmc: Add shutdown callback for TMC ETR/ETF
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 17:30:55 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1549935cf69ac3a006f32eb278821027@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf7e8ac2-51b2-d9cb-9c4f-c311297accac@arm.com>

Hi Robin, Mathieu

On 2020-06-03 17:07, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2020-06-01 22:28, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
>> That being said I'm sure that dependencies on an IOMMU isn't a problem 
>> confined
>> to coresight. I am adding Robin Murphy, who added this commit [1], to 
>> the thread
>> in the hope that he can provide guidance on the right way to do this.
> 
> Right, it's not specific to CoreSight, and it's not even specific to
> IOMMUs really. In short, blame kexec ;)
> 

Yes it is not specific to coresight, we are targeting this for all
consumers/clients of SMMU(atleast on SC7180 SoC). We have display 
throwing
NoC/interconnect errors[1] during reboot after SMMU is disabled.
This is also not specific to kexec either as you explained here [2] 
about
a case with display which is exacly what is happening in our system [1].

[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1591009402-681-1-git-send-email-mkrishn@codeaurora.org/
[2] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/5858bdac-b7f9-ac26-0c0d-c9653cef841d@arm.com/

> The fundamental thing is that devices should stop any DMA activity at
> shutdown. For a normal poweroff you can typically get away without
> doing so, but over kexec, ongoing DMA traffic may corrupt memory in
> the new kernel (at worst, I think even DMA reads could potentially
> cause unexpected cache behaviour that might lead to mishaps, given the
> right combination of memory attributes).
> 
> IOMMUs merely help to make the situation more serious. For similar
> kexec reasons, they need to disable any existing translations at
> shutdown (imagine if the second kernel didn't have an IOMMU driver).
> And at that point, even the normal poweroff case becomes problematic,
> because any device DMA that hasn't been shut down beforehand is now
> not necessarily going benignly to memory as it would in the no-IOMMU
> case above, but potentially to random physical addresses, with all the
> hilarity ensuing that you would expect from that.
> 

Thanks,
Sai
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