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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>,
	Marc Giger <gigerstyle@gmx.ch>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	pat@suwalski.net
Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered.
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:18:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1570840000.1051136330@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030423191427.D3557@almesberger.net>

>> I'm more concerned with new installs, and the poor user having no idea
>> why his sound card "doesn't work". Been there myself. Pain in the ass.
> 
> Yes, but that's a user space problem too. Nothing prevents your
> distribution to crank up the volume to 100% also on a first-time
> installation.

100% would be stupid too. If the distro can pick a reasonable value,
the kernel can too. Thus the argument "push the problem into userspace"
doesn't do anything for me.
 
> The kernel should pick a value that's safe in all cases. And
> this is zero. Don't forget that there can be several seconds
> between the driver's initialization and the moment when the
> user-space utility gets to change the settings.

So if people want 0 volume for some reason, they can set *that*
in userspace. Windows can manage to do this without cocking it up. 
I don't see why we can't achieve it. 

M.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-23 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-23 16:23 [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 16:32 ` Marc Giger
2003-04-23 16:45 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 16:56   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:21     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 13:26       ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 17:26         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:45           ` Disconnect
2003-04-23 17:47           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 18:44             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:49           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 18:56           ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-23 22:17         ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-23 22:35           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 22:55             ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-24  2:19               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  2:29                 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24  2:34                   ` Ben Collins
2003-04-24  7:22                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:31                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  4:30                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-23 23:15             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 21:34     ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 21:36       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 22:14         ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 22:18           ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-04-23 22:55             ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  0:11             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24  0:43               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  1:11                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24  1:18                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24  1:22                   ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24  2:11                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  2:40                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24  3:37                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  4:47                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 13:16                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  7:14                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:38                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 13:49                             ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 14:08                               ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 14:34                                 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 15:04                                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 15:23                                     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 16:01                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 16:26                                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-24 21:22                                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:03                                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-25 10:30                                               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 21:36                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 23:55                               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25  0:05                                 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-25 10:41                                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:04                                     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-25 17:44                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 17:59                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-26  0:31                                           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 22:51       ` Pavel Machek
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2003-04-24  0:31 Ian Kumlien

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