From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
Cc: Pat Suwalski <pat@suwalski.net>, Marc Giger <gigerstyle@gmx.ch>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered.
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:47:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030423174710.GA12744@citd.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1527920000.1051118798@flay>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:26:38AM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> >> I can only guess why. My buest guess is that not all
> >> sound-configurations are the same, on some systems the "defaults" could
> >> much to loud. (e.g. waking the neigbours when you restart you computer
> >> at night)
> >
> > This is certainly the case. When I was packaging OSS for Xandros, our initial default was 50 percent. We eventualyl made it about 30, because even that was too loud on a laptop we were testing. There was little coherance between the various soundcards.
> >
> > Waking the neighbors is the smallest problem. Blowing a speaker or makign the user deaf if quite another.
> >
> > Yes, it's a distro problem. My Gentoo was build "-alsa" and so the alsa-sound init script does not 'go'. A simple rebuild will solve the problem.
>
> I agree it's a disto problem to save and restore.
>
> But I fail to understand how the distro can magically set a sensible
> default, and yet we're unable to do so inside the kernel ? Setting it
> to something like 10 (or other very quiet setting) would seem reasonable.
> Then at least the poor user would have a clue what the problem was.
>
> As to "There was little coherance between the various soundcards", yes
> this probably needs to be a per-soundcard setting for sensible defaults.
> I presume this is what the distros do?
>
> Defaulting to silence seems user-malevolent ...
The problem is (normaly) a "one time while installing"-problem. So don't
see the point. The "helper" that finds out the soundcard, should also do
a "find out the default volume to use"-round with the user.
Bis denn
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-23 16:23 [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 16:32 ` Marc Giger
2003-04-23 16:45 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 16:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:21 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 13:26 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 17:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:45 ` Disconnect
2003-04-23 17:47 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer [this message]
2003-04-23 18:44 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:49 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 18:56 ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-23 22:17 ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-23 22:35 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 22:55 ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-24 2:19 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 2:29 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 2:34 ` Ben Collins
2003-04-24 7:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:31 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 4:30 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-23 23:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 21:34 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 21:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 22:14 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 22:18 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 22:55 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 0:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 0:43 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 1:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 1:18 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 1:22 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 2:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 2:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 3:37 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 4:47 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 13:16 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 7:14 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:38 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 13:49 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 14:08 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 14:34 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 15:04 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 15:23 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 16:01 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 16:26 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-24 21:22 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:03 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-25 10:30 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 21:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 23:55 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 0:05 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-25 10:41 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:04 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-25 17:44 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 17:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-26 0:31 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
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2003-04-24 0:31 Ian Kumlien
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