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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 00:50:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1804700.tdyjJcKU9T@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3133975.8bg0CLVMMz@wuerfel>

On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:43:18 Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:24:18 Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > >>> For isolation purposes, it can only help to have more domains, but
> > >>> I would guess that there is some space overhead in maintaining lots
> > >>> of page tables.
> > >> 
> > >> I'm okay with both approaches (separate domain for each device vs.
> > >> single common domain for all devices). Maybe this can be some kind of
> > >> Kconfig option added to DMA debugging? Separation might be really
> > >> helpful when debugging strange device behavior.
> > > 
> > > One potential problem with a single domain is when you have multiple
> > > instances of a given IOMMU, each with different hardware restrictions.
> > > Then you can end up with multiple sets of page tables for the domain
> > > which, although not impossible to work with, is a bit of a mess.
> > 
> > Maybe the default dma-mapping domain should be one per a given IOMMU
> > instance? This will simplify a lot of things in such case.
> 
> Yes, that sounds like a good idea.

That would work as a default configuration for the Renesas IPMMU IOMMU, which 
supports four TLBs to be shared between more than four bus masters. Ideally 
I'd like to make the bus master to TLB association somehow configurable, but 
associating all bus masters with a single TLB as a first step is fine.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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From: laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com (Laurent Pinchart)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 00:50:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1804700.tdyjJcKU9T@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3133975.8bg0CLVMMz@wuerfel>

On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:43:18 Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:24:18 Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > >>> For isolation purposes, it can only help to have more domains, but
> > >>> I would guess that there is some space overhead in maintaining lots
> > >>> of page tables.
> > >> 
> > >> I'm okay with both approaches (separate domain for each device vs.
> > >> single common domain for all devices). Maybe this can be some kind of
> > >> Kconfig option added to DMA debugging? Separation might be really
> > >> helpful when debugging strange device behavior.
> > > 
> > > One potential problem with a single domain is when you have multiple
> > > instances of a given IOMMU, each with different hardware restrictions.
> > > Then you can end up with multiple sets of page tables for the domain
> > > which, although not impossible to work with, is a bit of a mess.
> > 
> > Maybe the default dma-mapping domain should be one per a given IOMMU
> > instance? This will simplify a lot of things in such case.
> 
> Yes, that sounds like a good idea.

That would work as a default configuration for the Renesas IPMMU IOMMU, which 
supports four TLBs to be shared between more than four bus masters. Ideally 
I'd like to make the bus master to TLB association somehow configurable, but 
associating all bus masters with a single TLB as a first step is fine.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-02 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-29 15:54 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54 ` Will Deacon
     [not found] ` <1409327670-3495-1-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-29 15:54   ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] iommu: provide early initialisation hook for IOMMU drivers Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1409327670-3495-2-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01  7:52       ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01  7:52         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:31         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 14:31           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:36           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-01 16:36             ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02  6:56         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02  6:56           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 14:47       ` Varun Sethi
2014-09-02 14:47         ` Varun Sethi
2014-09-02 15:04         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 15:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54   ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] dma-mapping: replace set_arch_dma_coherent_ops with arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1409327670-3495-3-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 14:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 14:27         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:20         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-01 16:20           ` Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54   ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] iommu: add new iommu_ops callback for adding a device with a set of IDs Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1409327670-3495-4-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01  8:13       ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01  8:13         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 14:39           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:34           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-01 16:34             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20140901163400.GK24594-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 17:18               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 17:18                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54   ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] iommu: provide helper function to configure an IOMMU for an of master Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1409327670-3495-5-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01  8:29       ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01  8:29         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 14:46           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:40           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-01 16:40             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20140901164000.GM24594-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 20:18               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 20:18                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:03                 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 10:03                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                   ` <20140902100342.GG25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 12:15                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 12:15                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 13:05                       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 13:05                         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                         ` <20140902130508.GK25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 14:01                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 14:01                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 20:59                             ` jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM
2014-09-02 20:59                               ` jroedel at suse.de
     [not found]                               ` <20140902205941.GA26123-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03  9:45                                 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-03  9:45                                   ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 15:03                       ` Varun Sethi
2014-09-02 15:03                         ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                         ` <b8484a1ea45846bbaa8512d4597b9e65-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 15:08                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 15:08                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:23           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 10:23             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 10:51       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 10:51         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 11:03         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 11:03           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140902110340.GI25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 19:08             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 19:08               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 14:55       ` Varun Sethi
2014-09-02 14:55         ` Varun Sethi
2014-08-29 15:54   ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1409327670-3495-6-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 14:53       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 14:53         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54   ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] arm: call iommu_init before of_platform_populate Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54     ` Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54   ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02  6:26   ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02  6:26     ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]     ` <540562F9.2030508-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02  8:31       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02  8:31         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20140902083138.GA25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02  8:48           ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02  8:48             ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]             ` <54058442.2070204-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02  8:56               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02  8:56                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:42                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 10:42                   ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]                   ` <54059F05.2090901-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 10:57                     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 10:57                       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                       ` <20140902105730.GH25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 12:24                         ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 12:24                           ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]                           ` <5405B6F2.1060105-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 12:43                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 12:43                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 21:50                               ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2014-09-02 21:50                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 12:22                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 12:22                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 12:30                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 12:30                         ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 12:46                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 12:46                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 13:11                           ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 13:11                             ` Marek Szyprowski

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