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From: Simon Kirby <sim@netnation.com>
To: Zlatko Calusic <zlatko.calusic@iskon.hr>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Zlatko's I/O slowdown status
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:23:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011102152349.B17362@netnation.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110261018270.1001-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <87k7xfk6zd.fsf@atlas.iskon.hr> <20011102065255.B3903@athlon.random> <87g07xdj6x.fsf@atlas.iskon.hr>
In-Reply-To: <87g07xdj6x.fsf@atlas.iskon.hr>; from zlatko.calusic@iskon.hr on Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:14:14PM +0100

On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:14:14PM +0100, Zlatko Calusic wrote:

> Thank God, today it is finally solved. Just two days ago, I was pretty
> sure that disk had started dying on me, and i didn't know of any
> solution for that. Today, while I was about to try your patch, I got
> another idea and finally pinpointed the problem.
> 
> It was write caching. Somehow disk was running with write cache turned
> off and I was getting abysmal write performance. Then I found hdparm
> -W0 /proc/ide/hd* in /etc/init.d/umountfs which is ran during shutdown
> but I don't understand how it survived through reboots and restarts!
> And why only two of four disks, which I'm dealing with, got confused
> with the command. And finally I don't understand how I could still got
> full speed occassionaly. Weird!
> 
> I would advise users of Debian unstable to comment that part, I'm sure
> it's useless on most if not all setups. You might be pleasantly
> surprised with performance gains (write speed doubles).

Aha!  That would explain why I was seeing it as well... and why I was
seeing errors from hdparm for /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd, which are CDROMs.

Argh. :)

If they have hdparm -W 0 at shutdown, there should be a -W 1 during
startup.

Simon-

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From: Simon Kirby <sim@netnation.com>
To: Zlatko Calusic <zlatko.calusic@iskon.hr>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Zlatko's I/O slowdown status
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:23:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011102152349.B17362@netnation.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87g07xdj6x.fsf@atlas.iskon.hr>; from zlatko.calusic@iskon.hr on Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:14:14PM +0100

On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:14:14PM +0100, Zlatko Calusic wrote:

> Thank God, today it is finally solved. Just two days ago, I was pretty
> sure that disk had started dying on me, and i didn't know of any
> solution for that. Today, while I was about to try your patch, I got
> another idea and finally pinpointed the problem.
> 
> It was write caching. Somehow disk was running with write cache turned
> off and I was getting abysmal write performance. Then I found hdparm
> -W0 /proc/ide/hd* in /etc/init.d/umountfs which is ran during shutdown
> but I don't understand how it survived through reboots and restarts!
> And why only two of four disks, which I'm dealing with, got confused
> with the command. And finally I don't understand how I could still got
> full speed occassionaly. Weird!
> 
> I would advise users of Debian unstable to comment that part, I'm sure
> it's useless on most if not all setups. You might be pleasantly
> surprised with performance gains (write speed doubles).

Aha!  That would explain why I was seeing it as well... and why I was
seeing errors from hdparm for /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd, which are CDROMs.

Argh. :)

If they have hdparm -W 0 at shutdown, there should be a -W 1 during
startup.

Simon-

[  Stormix Technologies Inc.  ][  NetNation Communications Inc. ]
[       sim@stormix.com       ][       sim@netnation.com        ]
[ Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employers. ]

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-11-02 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-24 10:42 xmm2 - monitor Linux MM active/inactive lists graphically Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-24 10:42 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-24 14:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-24 14:26   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-25  0:25   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-25  0:25     ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-25  1:50     ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-25  4:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  4:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  4:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  4:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 12:48         ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-25 12:48           ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-25 16:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 16:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 17:33             ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-25 17:33               ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26  9:45             ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26  9:45               ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 10:08             ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 10:08               ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 14:39               ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26 14:39                 ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26 14:57                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 14:57                   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 15:01                   ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26 15:01                     ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26 16:04                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-26 16:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-26 16:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-26 16:57                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-26 17:19                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-26 17:19                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 17:30                       ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-28 17:30                         ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-28 17:34                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 17:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 17:48                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 17:48                             ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 17:59                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 17:59                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 18:22                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 18:22                                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 18:46                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 18:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 19:29                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 19:29                                     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 22:04                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 18:56                               ` Andrew Morton
2001-10-28 18:56                                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-10-30  8:56                               ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-30  8:56                                 ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-30  9:26                                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-30 19:07                                   ` Josh McKinney
2001-10-28 19:13                         ` Barry K. Nathan
2001-10-28 19:13                           ` Barry K. Nathan
2001-10-28 21:42                           ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-28 21:42                             ` Jonathan Morton
2001-11-02  5:52                         ` Zlatko's I/O slowdown status Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-02  5:52                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-02 20:14                           ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-11-02 20:14                             ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-11-02 20:16                             ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-11-02 20:36                               ` John Alvord
2001-11-02 21:16                               ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-11-02 20:26                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-02 21:22                               ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-11-02 20:57                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-02 20:57                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-02 23:23                             ` Simon Kirby [this message]
2001-11-02 23:23                               ` Simon Kirby
2001-11-02 23:37                               ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-10-27 13:14               ` xmm2 - monitor Linux MM active/inactive lists graphically Giuliano Pochini
2001-10-27 13:14                 ` Giuliano Pochini
2001-10-28  5:05                 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-28  5:05                   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-25  9:07       ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-25  9:07         ` Zlatko Calusic

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