From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>
Cc: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>, Mike Uhler <uhler@mips.com>,
"MIPS/Linux List (SGI)" <linux-mips@oss.sgi.com>,
"H . J . Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>
Subject: Re: thread-ready ABIs
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:13:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020122121330.A16110@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00c001c1a367$69c10160$0deca8c0@Ulysses>
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 06:08:12PM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:
> > Perhaps I'm mangling terminology. LinuxThreads is a one-to-one mapping
> > of kernel threads to user threads. All the kernel threads, and thus
> > all the user threads, share the same memory region - including the
> > stack region. Their stacks are differentiated solely by different
> > values in the stack pointer register. Thus I don't think what you're
> > suggesting is possible.
>
> I don't see how fork() semantics can be preserved unless
> the stack regions are replicated (copy-on-write) on a fork().
> Under ATT and BSD Unix (which is where I did most of
> my kernel hacking in the old days) that was the *only*
> way to get a new kernel thread, so it was "obvious"
> that my proposed hack would work. Linux does have
> the clone() function as well, and if LinuxThreads are
> implemented in terms of clone(foo, stakptr, CLONE_VM, arg),
> you are correct, the proposed scheme would not work
> without modification.
Which it is. Fork shares no memory regions; vfork/clone share all
memory regions. AFAIK there is no share-heap-but-not-stack option in
Linux.
--
Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-22 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2002-01-18 18:19 ` thread-ready ABIs H . J . Lu
2002-01-18 18:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 19:08 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-18 19:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-19 12:14 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 12:14 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-20 0:14 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-18 20:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 20:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 20:50 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:35 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:44 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 22:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-18 21:23 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-19 0:35 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 0:35 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 4:11 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-19 12:27 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-19 19:42 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 13:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-19 22:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-19 22:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 10:38 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-20 11:58 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 11:58 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-20 13:16 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:27 ` patches for test-and-set without ll/sc (Re: thread-ready ABIs) Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:37 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 6:46 ` Machida Hiroyuki
2002-01-22 6:56 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-24 9:56 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-24 9:56 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-01-20 19:19 ` thread-ready ABIs H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 9:39 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 9:39 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 13:56 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-21 18:24 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 18:52 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:58 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 18:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:05 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 19:09 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-21 19:18 ` H . J . Lu
2002-01-21 21:04 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 21:04 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 19:30 ` Geoff Keating
2002-01-21 21:07 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 13:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-20 0:24 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-01-21 23:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-21 23:57 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-21 23:57 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 0:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 0:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 9:37 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 9:37 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 17:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 17:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-22 9:59 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 9:59 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 12:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 12:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 15:44 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-01-22 21:44 ` Tommy S. Christensen
2002-01-22 21:53 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 21:53 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 23:13 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-23 1:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2002-01-22 16:05 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:05 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 16:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:08 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:08 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-01-22 17:34 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:34 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 17:47 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:47 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 17:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-22 18:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 18:18 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-27 20:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-27 20:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-28 8:50 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-28 8:50 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-01-22 1:39 ` Richard Henderson
2002-01-18 21:24 Justin Carlson
2002-01-18 21:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-18 21:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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