[parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[marc]

Hey, I just installed the newest version of Debian PA Linux off
the ISO CD, and everything went fine, I was able to install gcc, etc,
etc. but now I need to install a Java compiler and runtime environment
and more importantly a ssh client. I do not have network connectivity
yet, and I cannot find these packages using the 'apt-cache search'
command.

Thanks in advance for helping!
-Marc

Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Aaron Macks]

Check for OpenSSH, I'm pretty sure it's part of the compiled 
packages.  As for Java, I'm pretty sure there is no pre-compiled form 
for HPPA, but you can try to compile it, or try Kaffe
Aaron
>
>and more importantly a ssh client. I do not have network connectivity


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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[marc]

>Check for OpenSSH, I'm pretty sure it's part of the compiled 
>packages.  As for Java, I'm pretty sure there is no pre-compiled form 
>for HPPA, but you can try to compile it, or try Kaffe
>Aaron

`apt-cache search ssh` returns nothing.

Any other ideas?

Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:04:58AM -0500, marc  wrote:
> 
> >Check for OpenSSH, I'm pretty sure it's part of the compiled 
> >packages.  As for Java, I'm pretty sure there is no pre-compiled form 
> >for HPPA, but you can try to compile it, or try Kaffe
> >Aaron
> 
> `apt-cache search ssh` returns nothing.
> 
> Any other ideas?

try an apt-get update first?

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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Andreas Deresch]

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:04:58AM -0500, marc  wrote:
> >
> > >Check for OpenSSH, I'm pretty sure it's part of the compiled
> > >packages.  As for Java, I'm pretty sure there is no pre-compiled form
> > >for HPPA, but you can try to compile it, or try Kaffe
> > >Aaron
> >
> > `apt-cache search ssh` returns nothing.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
>
> try an apt-get update first?
ssh is in non-US isn't it? If there is no line like

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main
(change for your favourite server, protocol, etc.)

in /etc/apt/sources.list, that won't do anything.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Andreas Deresch]

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Andreas Deresch wrote:

> On Wed, 29 May 2002, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:04:58AM -0500, marc  wrote:
> > >
> > > >Check for OpenSSH, I'm pretty sure it's part of the compiled
> > > >packages.  As for Java, I'm pretty sure there is no pre-compiled form
> > > >for HPPA, but you can try to compile it, or try Kaffe
> > > >Aaron
> > >
> > > `apt-cache search ssh` returns nothing.
> > >
> > > Any other ideas?
> >
> > try an apt-get update first?
> ssh is in non-US isn't it? If there is no line like
>
> deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main
> (change for your favourite server, protocol, etc.)
>
> in /etc/apt/sources.list, that won't do anything.
O.k., correction - at the moment it is in non-US/main for stable, in main
for testing and unstable.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Grant Grundler]

"marc " wrote:
> `apt-cache search ssh` returns nothing.
> Any other ideas?

verify you have non-us in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
Something like:
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free


grundler <515>dpkg -l ssh
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name           Version        Description
+++-==============-==============-============================================
ii  ssh            3.0.2p1-9      Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH)


grant

Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[marc]

The problem is per my original post that I do not have network
yet, I just needed the Java and SSH stuff to do some work,
but I guess I will wait until I get things up and running.

Thanks,
-Marc

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Andreas Deresch <aderesch@fs.tum.de>
Reply-To: Andreas Deresch <aderesch@fs.tum.de>
Date:  Wed, 29 May 2002 18:16:17 +0200 (CEST)

>On Wed, 29 May 2002, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:04:58AM -0500, marc  wrote:
>> >
>> > >Check for OpenSSH, I'm pretty sure it's part of the compiled
>> > >packages.  As for Java, I'm pretty sure there is no pre-compiled form
>> > >for HPPA, but you can try to compile it, or try Kaffe
>> > >Aaron
>> >
>> > `apt-cache search ssh` returns nothing.
>> >
>> > Any other ideas?
>>
>> try an apt-get update first?
>ssh is in non-US isn't it? If there is no line like
>
>deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main
>(change for your favourite server, protocol, etc.)
>
>in /etc/apt/sources.list, that won't do anything.
>
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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Andreas Deresch]

On Wed, 29 May 2002, marc  wrote:

> The problem is per my original post that I do not have network
> yet, I just needed the Java and SSH stuff to do some work,
> but I guess I will wait until I get things up and running.
If you have network access somewhere else, you can still download the
package there and carry it home. apt-zip is a tool for automating that (get
the package lists, update your local cache, choose packages, then run
apt-zip-list, use the produced script to download the packages somewhere
else, then run apt-zip-inst back home).

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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[marc]

I got ssh up and running. Also, why does it bomb when I uncomment the line in my sources.list that has to do with the security updates?? I have network
connectivity now, and heres what I get for the
java possibilities:

seki:/etc/apt# more sources.list

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 prerelease _Woody_ - Unofficial hppa Binary-1 (2
0011205)]/ unstable contrib main
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main non-US/contrib n
on-US/non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
# deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable updates/main updates/contrib updates/
non-free





seki:/etc/apt# apt-get install jikes
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  jikes: Depends: java-virtual-machine but it is not installable
E: Sorry, broken packages
seki:/etc/apt# apt-get install kaffe
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package kaffe has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
E: Package kaffe has no installation candidate



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Grant Grundler <grundler@dsl2.external.hp.com>
Date:  Wed, 29 May 2002 14:13:34 -0600

>"marc " wrote:
>> `apt-cache search ssh` returns nothing.
>> Any other ideas?
>
>verify you have non-us in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
>Something like:
>deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
>
>
>grundler <515>dpkg -l ssh
>Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
>|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
>||/ Name           Version        Description
>+++-==============-==============-============================================
>ii  ssh            3.0.2p1-9      Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH)
>
>
>grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Richard Hirst]

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:23:49AM -0500, marc  wrote:
> I got ssh up and running. Also, why does it bomb when I uncomment the line in my sources.list that has to do with the security updates?? I have network
> connectivity now, and heres what I get for the
> java possibilities:
> 
> seki:/etc/apt# more sources.list
> 
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 prerelease _Woody_ - Unofficial hppa Binary-1 (2
> 0011205)]/ unstable contrib main
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main non-US/contrib n
> on-US/non-free
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> # deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable updates/main updates/contrib updates/
> non-free

Security updates only exist for stable releases, and don't exist for
woody yet as it isn't quite released.    Someone correct me if that's
not quite accurate.

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:23:49AM -0500, marc  wrote:
> seki:/etc/apt# apt-get install kaffe
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Package kaffe has no available version, but exists in the database.
> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
> of sources.list
> E: Package kaffe has no installation candidate

looks like no-one's managed to get kaffe built on hppa.  gcj doesn't seem
to be available for hppa either.  In fact, kaffe is only available for
alpha, arm, i386, m68k, powerpc, sparc (ie hppa, ia64, mips, mipsel &
s390 haven't managed to get it working yet).  gcj seems to be available
on everything but hppa, mips & mipsel.  I don't know how much effort is
involved in making these things work.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Grant Grundler]

"marc " wrote:
> I got ssh up and running. Also, why does it bomb when I uncomment the line in
>    my sources.list that has to do with the security updates??

Any other takers?
I have no clue.
Can you post output to debian-hppa list?
I expect someone there will know.

> I have network connectivity now, and heres what I get for the
> java possibilities:

Phil Pinkerton had complained about this earlier.
He couldn't even get the code from Sun to compile.
Maybe you want to look up his email in the parisc-linux
mail archives and ask him.

hth,
grant

Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 02:52:06PM -0600, Grant Grundler wrote:
> Any other takers?
> I have no clue.
> Can you post output to debian-hppa list?
> I expect someone there will know.

because security updates are only available for stable.  since woody is
not yet released, there are no security updates for woody.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[John David Anglin]

> > I have network connectivity now, and heres what I get for the
> > java possibilities:
> 
> Phil Pinkerton had complained about this earlier.
> He couldn't even get the code from Sun to compile.

gcj builds without problem on all parisc configurations.  However,
nobody has done the work to port the java libraries.  I imagine
that getting the libraries to build under hppa-linux should be
pretty straight forward.

Dave
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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 05:01:45PM -0400, John David Anglin wrote:
> > > I have network connectivity now, and heres what I get for the
> > > java possibilities:
> > 
> > Phil Pinkerton had complained about this earlier.
> > He couldn't even get the code from Sun to compile.
> 
> gcj builds without problem on all parisc configurations.  However,
> nobody has done the work to port the java libraries.  I imagine
> that getting the libraries to build under hppa-linux should be
> pretty straight forward.

For some reason, doko disabled gcj from building in debian's packages.
Anyone know why?

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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[John David Anglin]

> > gcj builds without problem on all parisc configurations.  However,
> > nobody has done the work to port the java libraries.  I imagine
> > that getting the libraries to build under hppa-linux should be
> > pretty straight forward.
> 
> For some reason, doko disabled gcj from building in debian's packages.
> Anyone know why?

Probably, since gcj is more or less useless without the libraries.
The hard part may be libffi.

Dave
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Re: [parisc-linux] Java and SSH

[marc]

and I assume that jikes not working is the same reason that
the kaffe stuff is "lame"?

It would be a shame to have to go back to HP-UX... Our company
is amazingingy enough is happy for once to get on the bleading edge.

-Marc

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org>
Date:  Thu, 30 May 2002 12:55:30 +0100

>On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:23:49AM -0500, marc  wrote:
>> seki:/etc/apt# apt-get install kaffe
>> Reading Package Lists... Done
>> Building Dependency Tree... Done
>> Package kaffe has no available version, but exists in the database.
>> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
>> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
>> of sources.list
>> E: Package kaffe has no installation candidate
>
>looks like no-one's managed to get kaffe built on hppa.  gcj doesn't seem
>to be available for hppa either.  In fact, kaffe is only available for
>alpha, arm, i386, m68k, powerpc, sparc (ie hppa, ia64, mips, mipsel &
>s390 haven't managed to get it working yet).  gcj seems to be available
>on everything but hppa, mips & mipsel.  I don't know how much effort is
>involved in making these things work.
>
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