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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.38-mm2
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:16:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020923071633.GA15479@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D8E96AA.C2FA7D8@digeo.com>

On Sun, Sep 22 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> +read-latency.patch
> 
>  Fix the writer-starves-reader elevator problem.  This is basically
>  the read_latency2 patch from -ac kernels.
> 
>  On IDE it provides a 100x improvement in read throughput when there
>  is heavy writeback happening.  40x on SCSI.  You need to disable

Ah interesting. I do still think that it is worth to investigate _why_
both elevator_linus and deadline does not prevent the read starvation.
The read-latency is a hack, not a solution imo.

>  tagged command queueing on scsi - it appears to be quite stupidly
>  implemented.

Ahem I think you are being excessively harsh, or maybe passing judgement
on something you haven't even looked at. Did you consider that you
_drive_ may be the broken component? Excessive turn-around times for
request when using deep tcq is not unusual, by far.

-- 
Jens Axboe


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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.38-mm2
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:16:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020923071633.GA15479@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D8E96AA.C2FA7D8@digeo.com>

On Sun, Sep 22 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> +read-latency.patch
> 
>  Fix the writer-starves-reader elevator problem.  This is basically
>  the read_latency2 patch from -ac kernels.
> 
>  On IDE it provides a 100x improvement in read throughput when there
>  is heavy writeback happening.  40x on SCSI.  You need to disable

Ah interesting. I do still think that it is worth to investigate _why_
both elevator_linus and deadline does not prevent the read starvation.
The read-latency is a hack, not a solution imo.

>  tagged command queueing on scsi - it appears to be quite stupidly
>  implemented.

Ahem I think you are being excessively harsh, or maybe passing judgement
on something you haven't even looked at. Did you consider that you
_drive_ may be the broken component? Excessive turn-around times for
request when using deep tcq is not unusual, by far.

-- 
Jens Axboe

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-23  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-23  4:20 2.5.38-mm2 Andrew Morton
2002-09-23  4:20 ` 2.5.38-mm2 Andrew Morton
2002-09-23  7:16 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2002-09-23  7:16   ` 2.5.38-mm2 Jens Axboe
2002-09-23  7:43   ` 2.5.38-mm2 Andrew Morton
2002-09-23  7:43     ` 2.5.38-mm2 Andrew Morton
2002-09-24 21:10   ` 2.5.38-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2002-09-24 21:10     ` 2.5.38-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2002-09-23  9:45 ` 2.5.38-mm2 [PATCH] Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-23  9:45   ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-23 16:28   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-23 16:28     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-23 17:33     ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-23 17:33       ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-24  4:41   ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24  4:41     ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24 10:24     ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-24 10:24       ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-24 14:56       ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24 14:56         ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-23  9:56 ` 2.5.38-mm2 [PATCH] (dcache) Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-23  9:56   ` Dipankar Sarma

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