SE Linux training

SE Linux training

[Russell Coker]

http://www.securityenhancedlinux.com/

So how do you go about becoming an "Authorized SE Linux Courseware Developer 
and Training Deliverer"?

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Re: SE Linux training

[James Morris]

On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Russell Coker wrote:

> http://www.securityenhancedlinux.com/
> 
> So how do you go about becoming an "Authorized SE Linux Courseware Developer 
> and Training Deliverer"?
> 

I've emailed them to find out excatly what they mean by that.  What are 
the chances of getting a response ? :-)

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Re: SE Linux training

[James Morris]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, James Morris wrote:

> I've emailed them to find out excatly what they mean by that.  What are 
> the chances of getting a response ? :-)

Ugh, that was supposed to be a private email, please disregard.


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Re: SE Linux training

[Ben McGinnes]

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Russell Coker(russell@coker.com.au)@Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:15:18PM +0100:
> http://www.securityenhancedlinux.com/
> 
> So how do you go about becoming an "Authorized SE Linux Courseware Developer 
> and Training Deliverer"?

Well, based on the whois info for the domain, it looks like Mark
teaches candidates what he knows and, should he encounter he trouble, he
asks this list what in Hell to do.

At that point either you or Stephen Smalley will usually answer.  :)

Okay, this is partially a tongue-in-cheek answer 'cause I'm on annual
leave again and have more Cointreau by my side, but the whois info for
the domain does show it belongs to someone who has been on this list
for a while and seems to have a fair bit of clue.  Okay, the domain
name does seem to pander to the "instant answer" and "must have
certification" brigades, but neither of those are really new to the IT
industry (especially when any level of management for any corporate
organisation is involved).

So why not just ask Mark directly what his intentions are, preferably
with the rest of the list getting the results.  Hell, if I were to
base his response just on past posts (especially his attitude to the
SCC), then I would not be surprised if he encouraged especially
interested students to join this list and, maybe, Russell's discussion
list (which perhaps might be a better forum for this type of thing).


Regards,
Ben

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Re: SE Linux training

[Russell Coker]

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:55, Ben McGinnes wrote:
> Russell Coker(russell@coker.com.au)@Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:15:18PM +0100:
> > http://www.securityenhancedlinux.com/
> >
> > So how do you go about becoming an "Authorized SE Linux Courseware
> > Developer and Training Deliverer"?
>
> Well, based on the whois info for the domain, it looks like Mark
> teaches candidates what he knows and, should he encounter he trouble, he
> asks this list what in Hell to do.

I didn't think to check whois until long after I had raised the issue on the 
list.  Since noticing the whois information I had been waiting for Mark to 
respond.

> At that point either you or Stephen Smalley will usually answer.  :)

;)

> Okay, this is partially a tongue-in-cheek answer 'cause I'm on annual
> leave again and have more Cointreau by my side,

Cointreau is nice.  ;)

> but the whois info for
> the domain does show it belongs to someone who has been on this list
> for a while and seems to have a fair bit of clue.  Okay, the domain
> name does seem to pander to the "instant answer" and "must have
> certification" brigades, but neither of those are really new to the IT
> industry (especially when any level of management for any corporate
> organisation is involved).

True, there's nothing wrong with providing products to meet that market 
demand.

> So why not just ask Mark directly what his intentions are, preferably
> with the rest of the list getting the results.  Hell, if I were to

Mark is doing some good things.  I'm surprised that he hasn't posted on this 
topic yet.  I'm also surprised that he didn't announce his web site and keep 
the list informed of progress on it.

Some public messages from Mark could really help clear things up.

> base his response just on past posts (especially his attitude to the
> SCC), then I would not be surprised if he encouraged especially
> interested students to join this list and, maybe, Russell's discussion
> list (which perhaps might be a better forum for this type of thing).

My discussion list isn't appropriate for this issue, and in any case it's 
broken at the moment as I am in the middle of re-arranging my mail servers.  
:(

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http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/  My home page


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Re: SE Linux training

[Ben McGinnes]

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Russell Coker(russell@coker.com.au)@Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 11:24:04AM +0100:
> 
> I didn't think to check whois until long after I had raised the
> issue on the list.  Since noticing the whois information I had been
> waiting for Mark to respond.

Hmm, whois is my friend.  Of course remembering which whois server is
where is a pain so whois.geektools.com is even more my friend (for
those who don't know it's a whois proxy server).

> Cointreau is nice.  ;)

Yes, we've established this.  :)

> Mark is doing some good things.  I'm surprised that he hasn't posted on this 
> topic yet.  I'm also surprised that he didn't announce his web site and keep 
> the list informed of progress on it.

At a guess I'd say he'd be torn between disclosing to the group
vs. appearing to spam the group.  Of course if this is the case then
having others raise the issue first side-steps the nagging "should I
post or not" question.

Of course he could also be really busy.

> Some public messages from Mark could really help clear things up.

I'll join the clamour for that.

> My discussion list isn't appropriate for this issue, and in any case
> it's broken at the moment as I am in the middle of re-arranging my
> mail servers. :(

Fairy snuff, then.


Regards,
Ben

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Re: SE Linux training

[Pete Loscocco]

Russell Coker wrote:
> http://www.securityenhancedlinux.com/
> 
> So how do you go about becoming an "Authorized SE Linux Courseware 
Developer 
> and Training Deliverer"?

NSA is not affiliated with this web site in any way.

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Peter Loscocco
SELinux Project Leader
National Security Agency


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