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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	davem@redhat.com, shemminger@osdl.org, rmk@arm.linux.org.uk,
	ak@muc.de, davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com, anton@samba.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Linus rollup
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 03:06:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030130020658.GW1237@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030129175232.A19969@twiddle.net>

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 05:52:32PM -0800, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:00:54PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
> > > if we hold the spinlock, the serialized memory can't be change under us,
> > > so there's no need to put a read barrier, we only care that pre_sequence
> > > is visible before the chagnes are visible and before post_sequence is
> > > visible, hence only wmb() (after spin_lock and pre_sequence++) is
> > > needed there and only rmb() is needed in the read-side.
> 
> Hmm.  Perhaps I was confused about how these things are intended
> to be used.  If indeed the writer doesn't care about the order
> in which pre/post_sequence are accessed, then wmb is sufficient
> to keep their updates ordered.

yep, IMHO it should be enough.

btw, I'm speaking only about the fr_write_lock/unlock, not sure what the
write_begin/end are meant for, there are no fr_write_begin/end in the
patch I was reading (in 2.4). If fr_write_begin/end have to be retained
because they can do something useful, and they don't take the spinlock,
it could be needed there to use mb(), I just have no idea of where
write_begin/end could be useful so it's hard to say.

Andrea
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-30  2:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-29  6:07 Linus rollup Andrew Morton
2003-01-29  6:53 ` David Mosberger
2003-01-29  7:25 ` David S. Miller
2003-01-29  9:33 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-29  9:35   ` David S. Miller
2003-01-29  9:54 ` Anton Blanchard
2003-01-29  9:59 ` Russell King
2003-01-29  9:51   ` David S. Miller
2003-01-29 10:26     ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-29 22:35       ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-01-29 23:12         ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-30  0:30           ` David S. Miller
2003-01-30  1:27             ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-30  1:24               ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-30  2:01                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-30  1:35               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-01-30  2:00                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-30  1:50                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-30  2:03                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-01-30 17:09                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-01-30 17:15                         ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-01-30 17:25                           ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-30 17:23                             ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-01-30  1:52                   ` Richard Henderson
2003-01-30  2:06                     ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-01-30  1:54                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-01-30  2:19                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-30 17:37                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-01-30 17:50                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-01-30  2:00                   ` Richard Henderson
2003-01-30  0:46         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-01-30  0:43       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-01-29 10:16   ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-29 17:04   ` David Mosberger
2003-01-29 17:25     ` Russell King
2003-01-29 19:05       ` David Mosberger

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