[parisc-linux] kernel compile

[parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Aaron St. Pierre]

I have been trying to get linux-2.4.20-pa23 to work with my j2240. For
awhile now I thought it was the console, but it isn't it is the kernel.
Here are the steps I took: 

Got the box running with debian kernel 2.4.17-32, 
updated to 2.4.18-32, and everything was working fine. 
I took the config from 2.4.18-32 and
used that as my starting point for 2.4.20-pa23 
ran make dep and make vmlinux; made and installed the modules

The box just stops at the branching message. Let me note the console is
set properly. I posted here before but think I was ignored becuase 
it was assumed I hadn't read the faq. Please I have read the faq, I just
need help I would love to get this box working with a recent kernel and 
not have to depend on the packaged debian kernels. 

Thanks. 

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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Grant Grundler]

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:02:47PM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> I took the config from 2.4.18-32
> and used that as my starting point for 2.4.20-pa23 

Can you:
# mv .config ../config-orig
# yes "" | make oldconfig
 (or something like that)

The default kernel should work on j2240.

grant

ps. FAQ has a link to "how to report kernel bugs"
	http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/index.html#kernelbugreport

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Aaron St. Pierre]

First, thanks for the response, I really appreciate it. 

I setup a page with all of the information from the "basics" section
of the faq. That page is : http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/

Grant, I did as you said, and the same thing happened. What disturbs me
is when it stopped at the brancing message and I waited about 15 minutes
then pressed the toc button there was still nothing in the pim ( I
cleared it prior to boot) I hope this doesn't mean the kernel isn't even
loading and it has something to do with palo. 

Maybe I am once again making this too complicated. If I left anything 
out let me know and I will add it. 

Thanks again for your help. :) 
In another life Grant Grundler wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:02:47PM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> > I took the config from 2.4.18-32
> > and used that as my starting point for 2.4.20-pa23 
> 
> Can you:
> # mv .config ../config-orig
> # yes "" | make oldconfig
>  (or something like that)
> 
> The default kernel should work on j2240.
> 
> grant
> 
> ps. FAQ has a link to "how to report kernel bugs"
> 	http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/index.html#kernelbugreport

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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Grant Grundler]

On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:33:36AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> I setup a page with all of the information from the "basics" section
> of the faq. That page is : http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/

very good.

j2240 is pa8200 - ie 64-bit capable.
But don't use 64-bit kernel unless you know why you need to.

> Grant, I did as you said, and the same thing happened. What disturbs me
> is when it stopped at the brancing message and I waited about 15 minutes
> then pressed the toc button there was still nothing in the pim ( I
> cleared it prior to boot) I hope this doesn't mean the kernel isn't even
> loading and it has something to do with palo. 

your PIM dump only has the HPMC/memory/IO sections.
Didn't "ser pim" give you LPMC and TOC sections too?

Secondly, since your j2240 is dual CPU, the PIM dump should contain
the same info (HPMC, LPMC, TOC) for both CPUs.

Can you check if you firmware is anywhere near the current?
(See http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/index.html#PDCupdate)


And the following from your log worries me despite the "ignore" part:
| Information: Boot device can't seek past 2Gb (ignore next error).
| byteio_read: seekread() returned -1 expected 2048

But nothing else indicated a problem loading the vmlinux.
I just don't see that when booting my a500.
It could be a difference in how palo interacts with IODC.

If you don't get any other hot tips, start disabling things in
the .config that you don't need: Parport, SBA/LBA/IOSAPIC,
USB, LCD/LED support, wireless, extra lan/scsi drivers, etc.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Grant Grundler]

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 11:03:59PM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
> If you don't get any other hot tips, start disabling things in
> the .config that you don't need: Parport, SBA/LBA/IOSAPIC,
> USB, LCD/LED support, wireless, extra lan/scsi drivers, etc.

I forgot to mention STI drivers - ditch those if you are using
serial console even though I doubt they are the problem.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Aaron St. Pierre]

Yea I missed that one. With this version of the firmware you have to
request the specific PIM, HPMC, LPMC, TOC. Anyway I got the the TOC
information for both processors after I tried to boot my kernel. It is
all on that page ( http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/ ) 

I also added a link to the firmware. I am running 2.0 of the firmware
and according to hp the most recent is 2.1 or : 

Patch Name: /firmware_patches/hp/cpu/PF_CJ224021
Description: HP 9000 Model J2240 firmware 2.1 patch
Date       : 00/10/06

I will start popping stuff out of the kernel, although I am sure I took
out all of the stuff wrt graphics. Another try for persistance sake wont
hurt :) 

As far as the palo message, i only started noticing it when I went to
v1.2 of palo. One thing I should note, when I set up / i made it ext3,
boot is off of / and not its own fs so when i realized what i did I just
changed fstab accordingly so it would mount as ext2, although that
couldn't be the problem either since it is loading the debian kernels.
Perhaps sleep is in order ?

:)

In another life Grant Grundler wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:33:36AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> > I setup a page with all of the information from the "basics" section
> > of the faq. That page is : http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/
> 
> very good.
> 
> j2240 is pa8200 - ie 64-bit capable.
> But don't use 64-bit kernel unless you know why you need to.
> 
> > Grant, I did as you said, and the same thing happened. What disturbs me
> > is when it stopped at the brancing message and I waited about 15 minutes
> > then pressed the toc button there was still nothing in the pim ( I
> > cleared it prior to boot) I hope this doesn't mean the kernel isn't even
> > loading and it has something to do with palo. 
> 
> your PIM dump only has the HPMC/memory/IO sections.
> Didn't "ser pim" give you LPMC and TOC sections too?
> 
> Secondly, since your j2240 is dual CPU, the PIM dump should contain
> the same info (HPMC, LPMC, TOC) for both CPUs.
> 
> Can you check if you firmware is anywhere near the current?
> (See http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/index.html#PDCupdate)
> 
> 
> And the following from your log worries me despite the "ignore" part:
> | Information: Boot device can't seek past 2Gb (ignore next error).
> | byteio_read: seekread() returned -1 expected 2048
> 
> But nothing else indicated a problem loading the vmlinux.
> I just don't see that when booting my a500.
> It could be a difference in how palo interacts with IODC.
> 
> If you don't get any other hot tips, start disabling things in
> the .config that you don't need: Parport, SBA/LBA/IOSAPIC,
> USB, LCD/LED support, wireless, extra lan/scsi drivers, etc.
> 
> grant
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux

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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Michael Wood]

On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:43:28AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
[snip]
> As far as the palo message, i only started noticing it when I went to
> v1.2 of palo. One thing I should note, when I set up / i made it ext3,
> boot is off of / and not its own fs so when i realized what i did I
[snip]

Your boot partition (/) is < 2GB, right?

-- 
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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Aaron St. Pierre]

Yes, the boot partition is < 2GB. In fact here is the partion table as 
reported from fdisk. 

Disk /dev/sda: 9100 MB, 9100044288 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 8678 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *         1        29     29680   f0  Linux/PA-RISC boot
/dev/sda2            30       267    243712   83  Linux
/dev/sda3           268      1221    976896   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda4          1222      5989   4882432    5  Extended
/dev/sda5          1222      3128   1952752   83  Linux
/dev/sda6          3129      5989   2929648   83  Linux

I will also add this info to my parisc page. I am going to start ripping
things out of the kernel a bit later today. One thing I will admit
ignorance about is the F0 partition. The debian install got vmlinux32 to
live in there but I haven't gotten any other kernels to live in there.
Not that that really matters since once can boot off of a kernel that
lives in an ext2 fs as long as it is within the first 2GB. Yawn, just
waking up ... 

In another life Michael Wood wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:43:28AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> [snip]
> > As far as the palo message, i only started noticing it when I went to
> > v1.2 of palo. One thing I should note, when I set up / i made it ext3,
> > boot is off of / and not its own fs so when i realized what i did I
> [snip]
> 
> Your boot partition (/) is < 2GB, right?
> 
> -- 
> Michael Wood <mwood@its.uct.ac.za>

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 Have at you!

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Grant Grundler]

On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:43:28AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> Anyway I got the the TOC information for both processors after
> I tried to boot my kernel. It is
> all on that page ( http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/ ) 

IIA Offset                   = 0x00000000f0080570

that's not a kernel address. Looks like a PDC call died. :^(

> I also added a link to the firmware. I am running 2.0 of the firmware
> and according to hp the most recent is 2.1 or : 
> 
> Patch Name: /firmware_patches/hp/cpu/PF_CJ224021
> Description: HP 9000 Model J2240 firmware 2.1 patch
> Date       : 00/10/06

hmm...I'd stick with 2.0 for now.

> I will start popping stuff out of the kernel, although I am sure I took
> out all of the stuff wrt graphics. Another try for persistance sake wont
> hurt :) 

You still have STI drivers enabled and CONFIG_FB enabled.
I'd start with those and then remove others one-by-one.

> As far as the palo message, i only started noticing it when I went to
> v1.2 of palo. One thing I should note, when I set up / i made it ext3,
> boot is off of / and not its own fs so when i realized what i did I just
> changed fstab accordingly so it would mount as ext2, although that
> couldn't be the problem either since it is loading the debian kernels.

/ can be ext3. Palo doesn't care since ext2/ext3 are compatible.
What's important is /boot/vmlinux is < 2GB on disk.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Joel Soete]

Aaron,

Just A comment on your web page 'Comments':
warning concerning 'mathemu' code are well known annoying but armless.

I try to remove them but this broken to much original hp code :(

Now, the stupid question: do you try to boot from a serial console?

I also would like to know if you really have an ide cdrom on your J?

If yes, could you try to unplug it (pw supply and data flat cable) to reboot
with your new kernel?

hth,
    Joel



>-- Original Message --
>To: "Aaron St. Pierre" <asp@ungod.com>
>Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
>Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile
>From: grundler@dsl2.external.hp.com (Grant Grundler)
>Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:53:21 -0700
>
>
>On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:43:28AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
>> Anyway I got the the TOC information for both processors after
>> I tried to boot my kernel. It is
>> all on that page ( http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/ ) 
>
>IIA Offset                   = 0x00000000f0080570
>
>that's not a kernel address. Looks like a PDC call died. :^(
>
>> I also added a link to the firmware. I am running 2.0 of the firmware
>> and according to hp the most recent is 2.1 or : 
>> 
>> Patch Name: /firmware_patches/hp/cpu/PF_CJ224021
>> Description: HP 9000 Model J2240 firmware 2.1 patch
>> Date       : 00/10/06
>
>hmm...I'd stick with 2.0 for now.
>
>> I will start popping stuff out of the kernel, although I am sure I took
>> out all of the stuff wrt graphics. Another try for persistance sake wont
>> hurt :) 
>
>You still have STI drivers enabled and CONFIG_FB enabled.
>I'd start with those and then remove others one-by-one.
>
>> As far as the palo message, i only started noticing it when I went to
>> v1.2 of palo. One thing I should note, when I set up / i made it ext3,
>> boot is off of / and not its own fs so when i realized what i did I just
>> changed fstab accordingly so it would mount as ext2, although that
>> couldn't be the problem either since it is loading the debian kernels.
>
>/ can be ext3. Palo doesn't care since ext2/ext3 are compatible.
>What's important is /boot/vmlinux is < 2GB on disk.
>
>grant
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>parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Aaron St. Pierre]

Joel, 
	I figured so, but thought I should note it since well I am running
	out of answers ;) 

	Here is the setup right now: I have a laptop running minicom
	connected to the J2240 through the serial port. I can see the init
	codes and tests happening through the serial console, so to answer
	your question :) yes I do boot from a serial console... 

	As far as the cdrom, it is not ide, it is scsi, and it seems to work 
	fine /dev/cdrom --> sr0. I inserted a cdrom (just to test) and
	mounted iso9660 without problems. 

	I am going to remove ide stuff from the kernel after I test with
	what grant suggested. 

	Just for the sake of documentation I will add compile logs as script
	files for the next builds. They will be on that page as I complete
	them. 

	Fun day of pancake making ahead :)

	In another life Joel Soete wrote:

> Aaron,
> 
> Just A comment on your web page 'Comments':
> warning concerning 'mathemu' code are well known annoying but armless.
> 
> I try to remove them but this broken to much original hp code :(
> 
> Now, the stupid question: do you try to boot from a serial console?
> 
> I also would like to know if you really have an ide cdrom on your J?
> 
> If yes, could you try to unplug it (pw supply and data flat cable) to reboot
> with your new kernel?
> 
> hth,
>     Joel
> 
> 
> 
> >-- Original Message --
> >To: "Aaron St. Pierre" <asp@ungod.com>
> >Cc: parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> >Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile
> >From: grundler@dsl2.external.hp.com (Grant Grundler)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:53:21 -0700
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:43:28AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> >> Anyway I got the the TOC information for both processors after
> >> I tried to boot my kernel. It is
> >> all on that page ( http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/ ) 
> >
> >IIA Offset                   = 0x00000000f0080570
> >
> >that's not a kernel address. Looks like a PDC call died. :^(
> >
> >> I also added a link to the firmware. I am running 2.0 of the firmware
> >> and according to hp the most recent is 2.1 or : 
> >> 
> >> Patch Name: /firmware_patches/hp/cpu/PF_CJ224021
> >> Description: HP 9000 Model J2240 firmware 2.1 patch
> >> Date       : 00/10/06
> >
> >hmm...I'd stick with 2.0 for now.
> >
> >> I will start popping stuff out of the kernel, although I am sure I took
> >> out all of the stuff wrt graphics. Another try for persistance sake wont
> >> hurt :) 
> >
> >You still have STI drivers enabled and CONFIG_FB enabled.
> >I'd start with those and then remove others one-by-one.
> >
> >> As far as the palo message, i only started noticing it when I went to
> >> v1.2 of palo. One thing I should note, when I set up / i made it ext3,
> >> boot is off of / and not its own fs so when i realized what i did I just
> >> changed fstab accordingly so it would mount as ext2, although that
> >> couldn't be the problem either since it is loading the debian kernels.
> >
> >/ can be ext3. Palo doesn't care since ext2/ext3 are compatible.
> >What's important is /boot/vmlinux is < 2GB on disk.
> >
> >grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Aaron St. Pierre]

Okay.... 
	I cannot explain this AT ALL, but look at this : 

	Linux parisc 2.5.58-pa2 #1 Mon Feb 3 19:05:50 EST 2003 parisc
	unknown unknown GNU/Linux

	Yes 2.5 compiled and booted. It was a crap shoot. Now I have to
	figure out how to get modules to work. I had to take them out since
	I was getting a compile time error. This is just wierd. 

	Well I suppose I shouldn't complain, this was the FIRST kernel that
	I built that actually booted. After about thirty or fourty compiles I
	have to say my persistence has paid off ;)

	I am gonna muck with the module stuff, If it is important to anyone 
	I will maintain the page at http://hadron.dyndns.org/parisc/
	
	Thanks again for all of your help ! 

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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Grant Grundler]

On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:49:04PM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> 	Yes 2.5 compiled and booted. It was a crap shoot. Now I have to
> 	figure out how to get modules to work.

Modules are broken in 2.5.x and still not fixed with 2.5.59.
Someone volunteered already to fix it but it hasn't happened yet.
Not sure if access to HW or lack of time is the problem.

> 	Well I suppose I shouldn't complain, this was the FIRST kernel that
> 	I built that actually booted. After about thirty or fourty compiles I
> 	have to say my persistence has paid off ;)

wierd. I guess it has.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Paul Bame]

On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:37:35AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> Yes, the boot partition is < 2GB. In fact here is the partion table as 
> reported from fdisk. 
> 
> Disk /dev/sda: 9100 MB, 9100044288 bytes
> 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 8678 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
> 
>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *         1        29     29680   f0  Linux/PA-RISC boot
> /dev/sda2            30       267    243712   83  Linux

Your TOC dump indicated a likely death in firmware, which is consistent
with trying to load a kernel from beyond the 2G mark.  Indeed your
/dev/sda2 ends past the 2G mark, so you can expect that sometimes
it'll work and sometimes it won't.

	-P

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Grant Grundler]

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:57:54AM -0700, Paul Bame wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:37:35AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> > Yes, the boot partition is < 2GB. In fact here is the partion table as 
> > reported from fdisk. 
> > 
> > Disk /dev/sda: 9100 MB, 9100044288 bytes
> > 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 8678 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
> > 
> >    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sda1   *         1        29     29680   f0  Linux/PA-RISC boot
> > /dev/sda2            30       267    243712   83  Linux
> 
> Your TOC dump indicated a likely death in firmware, which is consistent
> with trying to load a kernel from beyond the 2G mark.  Indeed your
> /dev/sda2 ends past the 2G mark, so you can expect that sometimes
> it'll work and sometimes it won't.

Paul,
Are you sure?

267*1048576 == 279969792 == 279,969,792

That's 280MB if I've placed the comas right.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel compile

[Aaron St. Pierre]

Paul, 	
	My root filesystem is 250MB. 

	parisc:~# df -kh
	Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
	/dev/sda2             231M   52M  168M  24% /
	/dev/sda5             1.9G  212M  1.6G  12% /var
	/dev/sda6             2.8G 1009M  1.7G  38% /usr

	Don't know if you saw the thread, but for some reason 2.5.58 
	boots, there are problems after, which is expected with a 
	development kernel, but it boots nonetheless and that is hopeful :) 

	Is there perhaps some other way I should be organizing my swap and
	filesystems ? I followed the instructions from
	http://www.parisc-linux.org/software/install.html. 

	Thanks



In another life Paul Bame wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:37:35AM -0500, Aaron St. Pierre wrote:
> > Yes, the boot partition is < 2GB. In fact here is the partion table as 
> > reported from fdisk. 
> > 
> > Disk /dev/sda: 9100 MB, 9100044288 bytes
> > 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 8678 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
> > 
> >    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sda1   *         1        29     29680   f0  Linux/PA-RISC boot
> > /dev/sda2            30       267    243712   83  Linux
> 
> Your TOC dump indicated a likely death in firmware, which is consistent
> with trying to load a kernel from beyond the 2G mark.  Indeed your
> /dev/sda2 ends past the 2G mark, so you can expect that sometimes
> it'll work and sometimes it won't.
> 
> 	-P
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