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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Paul McKenney <Paul.McKenney@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	dmccr@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mika.penttila@kolumbus.fi
Subject: Re: Race between vmtruncate and mapped areas?
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:42:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030517184249.GV1429@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF9AB7161F.A333DD8B-ON88256D29.0064AB5F-88256D29.0064AD44@us.ibm.com>

On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 11:19:39AM -0700, Paul McKenney wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 02:20:00AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > and it's still racy
> > >
> > > damn, and it just booted ;)
> > >
> > > I'm just a little bit concerned over the ever-expanding inode.  Do you
> > > think the dual sequence numbers can be replaced by a single generation
> > > counter?
> >
> > yes, I wrote it as a single counter first, but was unreadable and it had
> > more branches, so I added the other sequence number to make it cleaner.
> > I don't mind another 4 bytes, that cacheline should be hot anyways.
> >
> > > I do think that we should push the revalidate operation over into the
> vm_ops.
> > > That'll require an extra arg to ->nopage, but it has a spare one anyway
> (!).
> >
> > not sure why you need a callback, the lowlevel if needed can serialize
> > using the same locking in the address space that vmtruncate uses. I
> > would wait a real case need before adding a callback.
> 
> FYI, we verified that the revalidate callback could also do the same
> job that the proposed nopagedone callback does -- permitting filesystems
> that provide their on vm_operations_struct to avoid the race between
> page faults and invalidating a page from a mapped file.

don't you need two callbacks to avoid the race? (really I mean, to call
two times a callback, the callback can be also the same)

Andrea

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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Paul McKenney <Paul.McKenney@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	dmccr@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mika.penttila@kolumbus.fi
Subject: Re: Race between vmtruncate and mapped areas?
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:42:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030517184249.GV1429@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF9AB7161F.A333DD8B-ON88256D29.0064AB5F-88256D29.0064AD44@us.ibm.com>

On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 11:19:39AM -0700, Paul McKenney wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 02:20:00AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > and it's still racy
> > >
> > > damn, and it just booted ;)
> > >
> > > I'm just a little bit concerned over the ever-expanding inode.  Do you
> > > think the dual sequence numbers can be replaced by a single generation
> > > counter?
> >
> > yes, I wrote it as a single counter first, but was unreadable and it had
> > more branches, so I added the other sequence number to make it cleaner.
> > I don't mind another 4 bytes, that cacheline should be hot anyways.
> >
> > > I do think that we should push the revalidate operation over into the
> vm_ops.
> > > That'll require an extra arg to ->nopage, but it has a spare one anyway
> (!).
> >
> > not sure why you need a callback, the lowlevel if needed can serialize
> > using the same locking in the address space that vmtruncate uses. I
> > would wait a real case need before adding a callback.
> 
> FYI, we verified that the revalidate callback could also do the same
> job that the proposed nopagedone callback does -- permitting filesystems
> that provide their on vm_operations_struct to avoid the race between
> page faults and invalidating a page from a mapped file.

don't you need two callbacks to avoid the race? (really I mean, to call
two times a callback, the callback can be also the same)

Andrea
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-17 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-17 18:19 Race between vmtruncate and mapped areas? Paul McKenney
2003-05-17 18:19 ` Paul McKenney
2003-05-17 18:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-05-17 18:42   ` Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-19 18:11 Paul McKenney
2003-05-19 18:11 ` Paul McKenney
2003-05-13 20:44 Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 20:44 ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 20:58 ` Mika Penttilä
2003-05-13 20:58   ` Mika Penttilä
2003-05-13 21:04   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 21:04     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 22:26   ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 22:26     ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 22:49     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 22:49       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:00       ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 23:11         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:11           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:16           ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 23:16             ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 23:20             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:20               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:28               ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 23:28                 ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 23:29                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:29                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:16         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:16           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-14  1:10         ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14  1:10           ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 15:02           ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 15:02             ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14  1:10     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14  1:10       ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 15:02       ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 15:02         ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 15:06         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-14 15:06           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-14 15:25           ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 15:25             ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 16:42           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-14 16:42             ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-14 17:34         ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 17:34           ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 17:42           ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 17:42             ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 17:57             ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 17:57               ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 18:05               ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 18:05                 ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 18:17                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 18:17                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 18:24                   ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 18:24                     ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 18:53                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-14 18:53                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  8:50                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  8:50                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-14 19:02               ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-14 19:02                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-14 19:04                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-14 19:04                   ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-14 19:07                   ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 19:07                     ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-14 19:11                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-14 19:11                       ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-15  0:49             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  0:49               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  2:36               ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-15  2:36                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-15  9:46                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  9:46                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  9:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  9:55                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  8:32               ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  8:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  8:42                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  8:42                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  8:55                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  8:55                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  9:20                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  9:20                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  9:40                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  9:40                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15  9:58                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15  9:58                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-15 16:38                       ` Daniel McNeil
2003-05-15 19:19                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15 19:19                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15 22:04                           ` Daniel McNeil
2003-05-15 22:04                             ` Daniel McNeil
2003-05-15 23:17                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-15 23:17                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-17  0:27                               ` Daniel McNeil
2003-05-17  0:27                                 ` Daniel McNeil
2003-05-17 17:29                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-17 17:29                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-13 21:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 21:00   ` William Lee Irwin III

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