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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: willy@debian.org, ishii.hironobu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH, 2/4] readX_check() performance evaluation
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:39:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040128233948.26a36ff7.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401281420430.28145@home.osdl.org>

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:21:40 -0800 (PST)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > 
> > I have no idea how to do such an synchronization on i386/x86-64. E.g. Opteron
> > chipsets would likely support MCEs for bus aborts, but there is no way to 
> > synchronize it for writes.
> 
> Doing a status read from the device should do it (just read the config 
> space, for example).

The device is just not known. iirc you only get a bit in the bridge, which
leaves a wide choice. Ok, I guess you could read all config spaces in this
case

(I don't remember the ordering rules well enough - maybe one single config
space read is enough for all devices behind the bridge) 

> But remember: I suspect there are very _very_ few people who care at that 
> stage. 

Driver writers caring would be a good start.

I definitely agree that it shouldn't be enabled on anything near a production kernel.

-Andi

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: willy@debian.org, ishii.hironobu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH, 2/4] readX_check() performance evaluation
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:39:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040128233948.26a36ff7.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401281420430.28145@home.osdl.org>

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:21:40 -0800 (PST)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > 
> > I have no idea how to do such an synchronization on i386/x86-64. E.g. Opteron
> > chipsets would likely support MCEs for bus aborts, but there is no way to 
> > synchronize it for writes.
> 
> Doing a status read from the device should do it (just read the config 
> space, for example).

The device is just not known. iirc you only get a bit in the bridge, which
leaves a wide choice. Ok, I guess you could read all config spaces in this
case

(I don't remember the ordering rules well enough - maybe one single config
space read is enough for all devices behind the bridge) 

> But remember: I suspect there are very _very_ few people who care at that 
> stage. 

Driver writers caring would be a good start.

I definitely agree that it shouldn't be enabled on anything near a production kernel.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-28 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-28  1:54 [RFC/PATCH, 2/4] readX_check() performance evaluation Hironobu Ishii
2004-01-28  1:54 ` Hironobu Ishii
2004-01-28  2:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28  2:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28  4:44   ` Paul Mackerras
2004-01-28  4:44     ` Paul Mackerras
2004-01-28  8:58   ` Russell King
2004-01-28 16:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 16:15       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 17:01     ` Grant Grundler
2004-01-28 17:01       ` Grant Grundler
2004-01-28 18:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-01-28 19:19     ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 19:19       ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 19:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 19:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 19:40       ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 19:40         ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 20:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 20:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 20:15           ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 20:15             ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 20:19             ` [RFC/PATCH, 2/4] readX_check() performance evaluation II Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 20:19               ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 20:28             ` [RFC/PATCH, 2/4] readX_check() performance evaluation Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 20:28               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 20:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 20:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 21:09               ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 21:09                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 21:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 21:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 21:52                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 21:52                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 22:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 22:21                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 22:39                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-01-28 22:39                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-28 22:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-28 22:59                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-29 12:24                           ` Hironobu Ishii
2004-01-29 12:24                             ` Hironobu Ishii
2004-01-28 22:15                   ` David S. Miller
2004-01-28 22:15                     ` David S. Miller
2004-01-28  3:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-01-28  3:09   ` Matthew Wilcox

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