All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Mike Bell <kernel@mikebell.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:01:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040210170157.GA27421@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040210113417.GD4421@tinyvaio.nome.ca>

On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 03:34:18AM -0800, Mike Bell wrote:
> I've been reading a lot lately about udev and how it's both very
> different to and much better than devfs, and with _most_ of the reasons
> given, I can't see how either is the case. I'd like to lay out why I
> think that is.

Did you read:
	http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev_vs_devfs

> Basically, udev relies on sysfs exporting
> device numbers. Well, imagine for a moment sysfs exported actual device
> files instead of just the numbers you'd need to make a device file (a
> pretty minor change, though not one I'm advocating).

But that is not what sysfs does.  And sysfs will not do this.  So this
point is moot.

> Sorry if any of these points has already been discussed on
> linux-kernel, I don't have time to read the list so I'm going based on
> what's been reported in things like kernel-traffic.

They pretty much all have been in the past.  Try reading the archives,
that's what they are there for :)

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-10 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-10 11:34 devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user Mike Bell
2004-02-10 13:20 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-10 14:46   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:02     ` Mark Mielke
     [not found]   ` <20040210160011.GJ4421@tinyvaio.nome.ca>
2004-02-11  9:44     ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-11 20:05       ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-10 13:32 ` Ian Kent
2004-02-10 14:00   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:01 ` Greg KH [this message]
2004-02-10 17:13   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:25     ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 17:46       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 18:12         ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:29           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 22:19             ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-11  1:10               ` Mike Bell
2004-02-11 10:05               ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-13 21:19             ` Greg KH
2004-02-14  8:51               ` Mike Bell
2004-02-14  9:13                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2004-02-14 11:42                   ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-14 16:54                 ` Greg KH
2004-02-14 17:44                   ` Alex Goddard
2004-02-15  8:16                     ` Andrew Walrond
2004-02-19  9:47                   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-19 19:43                     ` Greg KH
2004-02-27  0:02                       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:10       ` Shawn
2004-02-10 17:52     ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-10 19:24       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:46         ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-10 19:58           ` Tomasz Torcz
2004-02-10 20:11           ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-02-10 20:39             ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11  1:16               ` Greg KH
2004-02-11  1:41                 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-02-11  9:36                   ` Maneesh Soni
2004-02-11  7:50                 ` viro
2004-02-11 12:33                   ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11 15:11                     ` [PATCH] Fix /etc/mtab updating with mount --move [was Re: devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user] Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11 19:19                     ` devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user dleonard
2004-02-10 20:32           ` Diego Calleja García
2004-02-11  1:20           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:15         ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-10 22:24           ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-11  1:35           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:44         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-10 17:55   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 18:19     ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:43       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:11         ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-11  1:49           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:12       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-13 21:08         ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:35 ` Greg KH
2004-02-11  1:25   ` Ian Kent
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-10 16:10 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
     [not found] <fa.i9mtr77.1pja9qf@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.de6p9mb.1ikipbl@ifi.uio.no>
2004-02-13 22:08   ` walt
2004-02-13 22:18     ` Greg KH

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20040210170157.GA27421@kroah.com \
    --to=greg@kroah.com \
    --cc=kernel@mikebell.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.