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From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Matthew Reppert <repp0017@tc.umn.edu>
Cc: Mike Bell <kernel@mikebell.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:05:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4029FE68.9020206@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1076451567.21725.21.camel@minerva>

Matthew Reppert wrote:

> At the very least, sysfs' and devfs' approaches to devices differ in
> philosophy. devfs says "here's a device node, you can tell where it is
> in the bus hierarchy by looking at its filename". sysfs, on the other
> hand, says "here's the device hierarchy", and gives you enough information
> to create device nodes for each point in the hierarchy if you wish to do
> so.
> 
There's an interesting security implication here.  I used to think 
"why don't they make a device node instead of exporting
numbers, udev could then simply make a link to it"
It'd be simpler, and the minimalists could use the node in sysf directly.

The security advantage is that we don't get a device with some default
permissions that might get abused.  The udev config can decide
to create a node with stricter than usual permissions, or decide
to not make the node at all.

Helge Hafting


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-11  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-10 11:34 devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user Mike Bell
2004-02-10 13:20 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-10 14:46   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:02     ` Mark Mielke
     [not found]   ` <20040210160011.GJ4421@tinyvaio.nome.ca>
2004-02-11  9:44     ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-11 20:05       ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-10 13:32 ` Ian Kent
2004-02-10 14:00   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:01 ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 17:13   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:25     ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 17:46       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 18:12         ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:29           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 22:19             ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-11  1:10               ` Mike Bell
2004-02-11 10:05               ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2004-02-13 21:19             ` Greg KH
2004-02-14  8:51               ` Mike Bell
2004-02-14  9:13                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2004-02-14 11:42                   ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-14 16:54                 ` Greg KH
2004-02-14 17:44                   ` Alex Goddard
2004-02-15  8:16                     ` Andrew Walrond
2004-02-19  9:47                   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-19 19:43                     ` Greg KH
2004-02-27  0:02                       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:10       ` Shawn
2004-02-10 17:52     ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-10 19:24       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:46         ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-10 19:58           ` Tomasz Torcz
2004-02-10 20:11           ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-02-10 20:39             ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11  1:16               ` Greg KH
2004-02-11  1:41                 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-02-11  9:36                   ` Maneesh Soni
2004-02-11  7:50                 ` viro
2004-02-11 12:33                   ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11 15:11                     ` [PATCH] Fix /etc/mtab updating with mount --move [was Re: devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user] Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11 19:19                     ` devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user dleonard
2004-02-10 20:32           ` Diego Calleja García
2004-02-11  1:20           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:15         ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-10 22:24           ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-11  1:35           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:44         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-10 17:55   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 18:19     ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:43       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:11         ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-11  1:49           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:12       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-13 21:08         ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:35 ` Greg KH
2004-02-11  1:25   ` Ian Kent
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-10 16:10 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
     [not found] <fa.i9mtr77.1pja9qf@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.de6p9mb.1ikipbl@ifi.uio.no>
2004-02-13 22:08   ` walt
2004-02-13 22:18     ` Greg KH

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