From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: rihad <rihad@mail.ru>
Cc: linux-kernel-digest@lists.us.dell.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 021 release
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 08:19:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040309081948.GI22057@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4048D503.10808@mail.ru>
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:29:07PM +0400, rihad wrote:
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:14:33 -0800
> From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
>
> >Users need to learn that the kernel is changing models from one which
> >automatically loaded modules when userspace tried to access the device,
> >to one where the proper modules are loaded when the hardware is found.
>
> Does this mean that I will have modules for all my hardware hanging
> around even if I'm not, say, using cdrom at the moment?
Yup, why not?
> And does it mean that if I rmmod -a the unused cdrom module and later
> try to mount /cdrom, the correct module won't be magically insmod'ed?
If you don't have the /dev entry there, how would anything know to load
the module?
> I like the idea of lazy module loading, and it seems that your model
> doesn't fit in nicely, I could be wrong.
How about "loading the modules for the hardware present"? What's wrong
with that?
thanks,
greg k-h
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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: rihad <rihad@mail.ru>
Cc: linux-kernel-digest@lists.us.dell.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 021 release
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:19:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040309081948.GI22057@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4048D503.10808@mail.ru>
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:29:07PM +0400, rihad wrote:
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:14:33 -0800
> From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
>
> >Users need to learn that the kernel is changing models from one which
> >automatically loaded modules when userspace tried to access the device,
> >to one where the proper modules are loaded when the hardware is found.
>
> Does this mean that I will have modules for all my hardware hanging
> around even if I'm not, say, using cdrom at the moment?
Yup, why not?
> And does it mean that if I rmmod -a the unused cdrom module and later
> try to mount /cdrom, the correct module won't be magically insmod'ed?
If you don't have the /dev entry there, how would anything know to load
the module?
> I like the idea of lazy module loading, and it seems that your model
> doesn't fit in nicely, I could be wrong.
How about "loading the modules for the hardware present"? What's wrong
with that?
thanks,
greg k-h
next parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-09 8:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20040303153403.21649.81059.Mailman@linux.us.dell.com>
[not found] ` <4048D503.10808@mail.ru>
2004-03-09 8:19 ` Greg KH [this message]
2004-03-09 8:19 ` [ANNOUNCE] udev 021 release Greg KH
2004-03-09 10:16 ` rihad
2004-03-09 10:16 ` rihad
2004-03-09 13:43 ` Alex Goddard
2004-03-09 13:43 ` Alex Goddard
2004-03-10 22:52 ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 22:52 ` Greg KH
[not found] <fa.fkf6pbs.vk4328@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.aj3o3v7.pgqn9l@ifi.uio.no>
2004-03-10 23:01 ` walt
2004-03-11 0:11 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-11 0:11 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
[not found] <fa.dbn18ei.1k46o3i@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.afjk56q.t0ulic@ifi.uio.no>
2004-03-10 13:02 ` walt
2004-03-10 13:02 ` walt
2004-03-10 21:01 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-10 21:01 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
[not found] <1vshj-2ou-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1vBuj-3YL-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-03 13:51 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-03-03 0:09 Greg KH
2004-03-03 0:09 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 0:25 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 0:25 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 1:16 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-03 3:09 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 9:56 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-03 9:56 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-03 12:22 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-03-03 12:22 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-03-03 15:14 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 15:14 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 19:28 ` David Brownell
2004-03-03 19:28 ` David Brownell
2004-03-03 22:53 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-03 22:53 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-04 1:25 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 1:25 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 3:58 ` Bill Nottingham
2004-03-04 3:58 ` Bill Nottingham
2004-03-04 18:26 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 18:26 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 11:30 ` Romano Giannetti
2004-03-04 1:22 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-04 1:22 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-04 1:28 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 1:28 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 9:27 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-04 9:27 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-03 15:15 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 15:15 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 23:56 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-03 23:56 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-04 1:19 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 1:19 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 10:19 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-03 10:52 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-03-03 11:02 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-03 15:49 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-03-04 1:18 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-04 6:37 ` Dominik Kubla
2004-03-04 18:44 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 18:44 ` Greg KH
2004-03-05 7:22 ` Dominik Kubla
2004-03-10 22:53 ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 22:53 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 17:48 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-03-04 18:46 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 18:46 ` Greg KH
2004-03-04 18:56 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-03-09 11:51 ` "Andrey Borzenkov"
2004-03-10 2:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-03-10 12:29 ` "Andrey Borzenkov"
2004-03-10 12:56 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-10 12:56 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-10 22:51 ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 22:51 ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 23:17 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-10 23:17 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-11 1:21 ` Greg KH
2004-03-11 1:21 ` Greg KH
2004-03-13 9:34 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-13 9:34 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-11 3:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-03-11 9:22 ` "Andrey Borzenkov"
2004-03-12 23:39 ` Greg KH
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