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From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.de>
To: Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@linuxpower.ca>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Kenneth Chen <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	CPU Freq ML <cpufreq@www.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: add lowpower_idle sysctl
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:05:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040318090522.GC15526@dominikbrodowski.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0403172237470.28447@montezuma.fsmlabs.com>

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On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 10:40:31PM -0500, Zwane Mwaikambo wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > "Kenneth Chen" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > > Logically it means a sysctl entry in /proc/sys/kernel.
> > >  > Yes, but the *meanings* of the different values of that sysctl need
> > >  > to be defined, and documented.  If lowpower_idle=42 has a totally
> > >  > different meaning on different architectures then that's unfortunate
> > >  > but understandable.  But we should at least enumerate the different
> > >  > values and try to get different architectures to honour `42' in the
> > >  > same way.
> > >
> > >  Writing to sysctl should be a bool, reading the value can be number of
> > >  module currently disabled low power idle.  I think the original intent
> > >  is to use ref count for enabling/disabling.  (granted, we copied the
> > >  code from other arch).

I assume ia64 does idling using the ACPI processor.c driver? If so, couldn't
writing to /proc/acpi/processor/./power be an option?

> > OK, so why not give us:
> >
> > #define IDLE_HALT			0
> > #define IDLE_POLL			1
> > #define IDLE_SUPER_LOW_POWER_HALT	2
> >
> > and so forth (are there any others?).
> >
> > Set some system-wide integer via a sysctl and let the particular
> > architecture decide how best to implement the currently-selected idle mode?
> 
> I'm wondering whether the setting of these magic numbers can't be done
> using cpufreq infrastructure.

I doubt it -- there's no ia64 cpufreq driver anyway, and cpufreq is about
frequency scaling and (sometimes) throttling, but not "idling". And
"idling" is a too different implementation anyways.

	Dominik

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From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.de>
To: Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@linuxpower.ca>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Kenneth Chen <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	CPU Freq ML <cpufreq@www.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: add lowpower_idle sysctl
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:05:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040318090522.GC15526@dominikbrodowski.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0403172237470.28447@montezuma.fsmlabs.com>

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On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 10:40:31PM -0500, Zwane Mwaikambo wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > "Kenneth Chen" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > > Logically it means a sysctl entry in /proc/sys/kernel.
> > >  > Yes, but the *meanings* of the different values of that sysctl need
> > >  > to be defined, and documented.  If lowpower_idle=42 has a totally
> > >  > different meaning on different architectures then that's unfortunate
> > >  > but understandable.  But we should at least enumerate the different
> > >  > values and try to get different architectures to honour `42' in the
> > >  > same way.
> > >
> > >  Writing to sysctl should be a bool, reading the value can be number of
> > >  module currently disabled low power idle.  I think the original intent
> > >  is to use ref count for enabling/disabling.  (granted, we copied the
> > >  code from other arch).

I assume ia64 does idling using the ACPI processor.c driver? If so, couldn't
writing to /proc/acpi/processor/./power be an option?

> > OK, so why not give us:
> >
> > #define IDLE_HALT			0
> > #define IDLE_POLL			1
> > #define IDLE_SUPER_LOW_POWER_HALT	2
> >
> > and so forth (are there any others?).
> >
> > Set some system-wide integer via a sysctl and let the particular
> > architecture decide how best to implement the currently-selected idle mode?
> 
> I'm wondering whether the setting of these magic numbers can't be done
> using cpufreq infrastructure.

I doubt it -- there's no ia64 cpufreq driver anyway, and cpufreq is about
frequency scaling and (sometimes) throttling, but not "idling". And
"idling" is a too different implementation anyways.

	Dominik

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-18  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-18  0:31 add lowpower_idle sysctl Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18  0:31 ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18  1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18  1:04   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18  9:42   ` Pasi Savolainen
2004-03-18  3:18 ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18  3:18   ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18  3:28   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18  3:28     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18  3:40     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-18  3:40       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-18  9:05       ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2004-03-18  9:05         ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-18 18:29         ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18 18:29           ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18 18:29           ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18 22:59       ` Todd Poynor
2004-03-18 22:59         ` Todd Poynor
2004-03-19  0:09         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-19  0:09           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-19  0:09           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-19  0:43         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-19  0:43           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-25 19:20         ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-25 19:20           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-25 19:20           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-18 21:59 ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18 21:59   ` Kenneth Chen
2004-03-18 22:35   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 22:35     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-24  9:54   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24  9:54     ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23  9:56 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23  9:56   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-25 19:04 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-25 19:04   ` Chen, Kenneth W
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2004-03-18  7:49 Ross Dickson

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