From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] barrier patch set
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:19:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040320101929.GF2711@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <405C191F.3020501@pobox.com>
On Sat, Mar 20 2004, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >I agree with Bart, it's usually never that clear. Quit harping the
> >stupid LG issue, they did something brain dead in the firmware and I
> >almost have to say that they got what they deserved for doing something
> >as _stupid_ as that.
>
> I use it because it's an excellent illustration of what happens when you
> ignore the spec.
Really, I think it's a much better demonstration of exactly how stupid
hardware developers are at times...
> >Jeff, it's wonderful to think that you can always rely on checking spec
> >bits, but in reality it never really 'just works out' for any given set
> >of hardware.
>
> "just issue it and hope" is not a reasonable plan, IMO.
I agree with that as well. I just didn't agree with your rosy idea of
thinking everything would always work if you just check the bits
according to spec.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-20 10:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-19 15:35 [PATCH] barrier patch set Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 16:30 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-03-19 18:16 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 18:44 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-03-20 9:55 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 16:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-19 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 23:01 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-20 0:02 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 1:48 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-20 2:13 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 2:53 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-20 16:03 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 11:36 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-20 16:00 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 23:36 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-21 1:33 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 18:52 ` Helge Hafting
2004-03-22 11:15 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-19 23:59 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 0:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 1:24 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 9:58 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 10:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 10:19 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2004-03-20 10:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 16:30 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-21 18:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 10:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 15:54 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 9:53 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 16:23 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 16:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 16:32 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-20 17:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 17:10 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-20 20:16 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-21 9:43 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-30 16:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-30 19:19 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-30 21:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-30 22:13 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 14:03 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 14:27 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 18:28 ` Ric Wheeler
2004-03-30 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-30 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:41 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-30 22:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-30 22:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-31 14:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 14:21 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 21:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-31 22:09 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 21:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-19 16:48 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2004-03-19 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-22 11:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-22 11:10 ` Jens Axboe
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