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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Fao, Sean" <Sean.Fao@dynextechnologies.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Amit Gud <gud@eth.net>
Subject: Re: Elastic Quota File System (EQFS)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:30:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040624213041.GA20649@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40DB3263.40600@dynextechnologies.com>

Hi!

> >>>What action should be taken can be specified by the user while making the
> >>>files elastic. He can either opt to delete the file, compress it or move 
> >>>it
> >>>to some place (backup) where he know he has write access. The 
> >>>corresponding
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>- having files disappear at the discretion of the filesystem seems to be
> >> bad behaviour: either I need this file, then I do not want it to just
> >> disappear, or I do not need it, and then I can delete it myself.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >
> >Actually, think .o or mozilla cache files... You don't need them, but if 
> >you have them,
> >things are faster.
> > 
> >
> I fail to understand the point you're trying to make.  Are you 
> suggesting that a feature doesn't necessarily have to be implemented, 
> just because it's there?  If so, the proposed idea on the "elastic" file 
> system differs greatly.  Cached content, for instance, speeds up the 
> browsing experience *without* hindering the ability of the application 
> to function normally.  Caching is a true enhancement --in most 
> circumstances.  I can personally see no way to implement EQFS without 
> greatly exasperating end users with its shortcomings.

Okay, lets make it explicit.

On one school server, theres 10MB quota. (Okay, its admins are
BOFHs^H^H^H^H^HSISAL). Everyone tries to run mozilla there (because
its installed as default!), and immediately fills his/her quota with
cache files, leading to failed login next time (gnome just will not
start if it can't write to ~).

Imagine mozilla automatically marking cache files "elastic".

That would solve the problem -- mozilla caches would go away when disk
space was demanded, still mozilla's on-disk caching would be effective
when there is enough disk space.
								Pavel
-- 
People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers...
...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-24 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-23 15:53 Elastic Quota File System (EQFS) Amit Gud
2004-06-23 17:53 ` Mark Watts
     [not found]   ` <1088016048.15211.10.camel@sage.kitchen>
2004-06-24  9:28     ` Amit Gud
2004-06-24 11:50       ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:04         ` Sam Elstob
2004-06-24 13:51           ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:17         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 19:58           ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-24 20:28             ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 20:30             ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 21:30             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-06-24 20:51               ` alan
2004-06-24 22:03                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 23:07                   ` alan
2004-06-25  0:15                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 11:57                       ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 12:07                       ` Josh Boyer
2004-06-25 19:34                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-25 17:37                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-25 18:44                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 12:00                           ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-25 19:09                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-30 13:02                         ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-25  7:52                   ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-27 18:18                     ` V13
2004-06-27 19:42                       ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-28 15:34                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25  3:04       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-23 20:37 ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-25 14:02 Amit Gud
2004-06-25 14:23 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 14:44 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 16:25   ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 16:44     ` Alan
2004-06-25 17:35       ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 20:22         ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 23:50           ` Kevin Fox
2004-06-26  4:03           ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 21:36             ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-26 23:16               ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-06-27  1:44                 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-28 13:43                 ` Rob Couto
2004-06-25 21:36         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 17:07     ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 18:44       ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 21:44       ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-23 15:48 gud

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