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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
Cc: Amit Gud <gud@eth.net>, alan <alan@clueserver.org>,
	"Fao, Sean" <Sean.Fao@dynextechnologies.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Elastic Quota File System (EQFS)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:25:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040625162537.GA6201@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200406251444.i5PEiYpq008174@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>

Hi!

> Case closed, anyway. It belongs in the kernel only if there is no
> reasonable way to do it in userspace.

But... there's no reasonable way to do this in userspace.

Two pieces of kernel support are needed:

1) some way to indicate "this file is elastic" (okay perhaps xattrs
can do this already)

and either

2a) file selection/deletion in kernel

or

2b) assume that disk does not fill up faster than 1GB/sec, allways
keep 1GB free, make "deleting" daemon poll each second [ugly,
unreliable]

or

2c) just before returning -ENOSPC, synchronously tell userspace to
free space, and retry the operation.

BTW 2c) would be also usefull for undelete. Unfortunately 2c looks
very complex, too; it might be easier to do 2a than 2c.
								Pavel

-- 
People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers...
...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl!

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-25 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-25 14:02 Elastic Quota File System (EQFS) Amit Gud
2004-06-25 14:23 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 14:44 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 16:25   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-06-25 16:44     ` Alan
2004-06-25 17:35       ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 20:22         ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 23:50           ` Kevin Fox
2004-06-26  4:03           ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 21:36             ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-26 23:16               ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-06-27  1:44                 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-28 13:43                 ` Rob Couto
2004-06-25 21:36         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 17:07     ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 18:44       ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 21:44       ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-23 15:53 Amit Gud
2004-06-23 17:53 ` Mark Watts
     [not found]   ` <1088016048.15211.10.camel@sage.kitchen>
2004-06-24  9:28     ` Amit Gud
2004-06-24 11:50       ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:04         ` Sam Elstob
2004-06-24 13:51           ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:17         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 19:58           ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-24 20:28             ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 20:30             ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 21:30             ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 20:51               ` alan
2004-06-24 22:03                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 23:07                   ` alan
2004-06-25  0:15                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 11:57                       ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 12:07                       ` Josh Boyer
2004-06-25 19:34                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-25 17:37                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-25 18:44                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 12:00                           ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-25 19:09                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-30 13:02                         ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-25  7:52                   ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-27 18:18                     ` V13
2004-06-27 19:42                       ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-28 15:34                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25  3:04       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-23 20:37 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-23 15:48 gud

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