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From: "Fao, Sean" <Sean.Fao@dynextechnologies.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: alan <alan@clueserver.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Amit Gud <gud@eth.net>
Subject: Re: Elastic Quota File System (EQFS)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:57:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40DC1339.7030205@dynextechnologies.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040625001545.GI20649@elf.ucw.cz>


>>A better option in this case is to reduce the default size of Mozilla's 
>>cache or expand the size of the quota for each user to deal with the added 
>>space requirements.
>>
>>If you are concerned about disk usage from caches, you can always create 
>>a script that removes the cache(s) when the user logs out.
>>    
>>
>
>That's not the right thing.. that way you loose caching effects around
>logins even when there's plenty of space.
>
>There's quite a lot of data -- at least on my systems -- that can be
>removed with "only" loss of performance...
>
>1) browser caches
>
>2) package lists, downloaded packages
>
>3) object files
>
>heck, if you know you have reliable network connection 4), you could
>even mark stuff like /usr/bin/mozilla elastic, and re-install it from
>the network when it is needed... Doing anything more complex than 1)
>requires extensive changes all around the kernel and userland, and
>you'd probably not call that system unix any more.
>  
>
All the suggested benefits listed above could easily be implemented in a 
script.  For instance, one could design a script that checks the amount 
of disk space at logout.  If the amount of disk space remaining is less 
than X (where X is value predefined by an administrator), the script 
could _suggest_ that corrective action be taken and allow the *user* to 
_decide_ what he/she wants to delete/move.

In a workstation environment, my honest opinion is that quota's are set 
entirely too low if you're running that close to your limit.  On a 
server, I do not see deleting files at the decision of the OS, to be 
beneficial.  Nor do I see any reason to develop the suggested FS to 
implement what should be taken care of by a knowledgeable administrator.

The idea of an elastic file system is interesting until you start 
considering how it would be implemented and what affects it would have 
in a production environment.

Sean

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-25 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-23 15:53 Elastic Quota File System (EQFS) Amit Gud
2004-06-23 17:53 ` Mark Watts
     [not found]   ` <1088016048.15211.10.camel@sage.kitchen>
2004-06-24  9:28     ` Amit Gud
2004-06-24 11:50       ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:04         ` Sam Elstob
2004-06-24 13:51           ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:17         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 19:58           ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-24 20:28             ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 20:30             ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 21:30             ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 20:51               ` alan
2004-06-24 22:03                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 23:07                   ` alan
2004-06-25  0:15                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 11:57                       ` Fao, Sean [this message]
2004-06-25 12:07                       ` Josh Boyer
2004-06-25 19:34                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-25 17:37                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-25 18:44                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 12:00                           ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-25 19:09                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-30 13:02                         ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-25  7:52                   ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-27 18:18                     ` V13
2004-06-27 19:42                       ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-28 15:34                         ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25  3:04       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-23 20:37 ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-25 14:02 Amit Gud
2004-06-25 14:23 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 14:44 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 16:25   ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 16:44     ` Alan
2004-06-25 17:35       ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 20:22         ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 23:50           ` Kevin Fox
2004-06-26  4:03           ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 21:36             ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-26 23:16               ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-06-27  1:44                 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-28 13:43                 ` Rob Couto
2004-06-25 21:36         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 17:07     ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 18:44       ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 21:44       ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-23 15:48 gud

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