From: "Fao, Sean" <Sean.Fao@dynextechnologies.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: alan <alan@clueserver.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Amit Gud <gud@eth.net>
Subject: Re: Elastic Quota File System (EQFS)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:57:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40DC1339.7030205@dynextechnologies.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040625001545.GI20649@elf.ucw.cz>
>>A better option in this case is to reduce the default size of Mozilla's
>>cache or expand the size of the quota for each user to deal with the added
>>space requirements.
>>
>>If you are concerned about disk usage from caches, you can always create
>>a script that removes the cache(s) when the user logs out.
>>
>>
>
>That's not the right thing.. that way you loose caching effects around
>logins even when there's plenty of space.
>
>There's quite a lot of data -- at least on my systems -- that can be
>removed with "only" loss of performance...
>
>1) browser caches
>
>2) package lists, downloaded packages
>
>3) object files
>
>heck, if you know you have reliable network connection 4), you could
>even mark stuff like /usr/bin/mozilla elastic, and re-install it from
>the network when it is needed... Doing anything more complex than 1)
>requires extensive changes all around the kernel and userland, and
>you'd probably not call that system unix any more.
>
>
All the suggested benefits listed above could easily be implemented in a
script. For instance, one could design a script that checks the amount
of disk space at logout. If the amount of disk space remaining is less
than X (where X is value predefined by an administrator), the script
could _suggest_ that corrective action be taken and allow the *user* to
_decide_ what he/she wants to delete/move.
In a workstation environment, my honest opinion is that quota's are set
entirely too low if you're running that close to your limit. On a
server, I do not see deleting files at the decision of the OS, to be
beneficial. Nor do I see any reason to develop the suggested FS to
implement what should be taken care of by a knowledgeable administrator.
The idea of an elastic file system is interesting until you start
considering how it would be implemented and what affects it would have
in a production environment.
Sean
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-25 11:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-23 15:53 Elastic Quota File System (EQFS) Amit Gud
2004-06-23 17:53 ` Mark Watts
[not found] ` <1088016048.15211.10.camel@sage.kitchen>
2004-06-24 9:28 ` Amit Gud
2004-06-24 11:50 ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:04 ` Sam Elstob
2004-06-24 13:51 ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-24 14:17 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 19:58 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-24 20:28 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 20:30 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-24 21:30 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 20:51 ` alan
2004-06-24 22:03 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-24 23:07 ` alan
2004-06-25 0:15 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 11:57 ` Fao, Sean [this message]
2004-06-25 12:07 ` Josh Boyer
2004-06-25 19:34 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-25 17:37 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-25 18:44 ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 12:00 ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-25 19:09 ` Amit Gud
2004-06-30 13:02 ` Olaf Dabrunz
2004-06-25 7:52 ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-27 18:18 ` V13
2004-06-27 19:42 ` Lionel Bouton
2004-06-28 15:34 ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 3:04 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-23 20:37 ` Rik van Riel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-25 14:02 Amit Gud
2004-06-25 14:23 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 14:44 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 16:25 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 16:44 ` Alan
2004-06-25 17:35 ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 20:22 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-25 23:50 ` Kevin Fox
2004-06-26 4:03 ` Amit Gud
2004-06-26 21:36 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-26 23:16 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-06-27 1:44 ` Fao, Sean
2004-06-28 13:43 ` Rob Couto
2004-06-25 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-25 17:07 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-25 18:44 ` Amit Gud
2004-06-25 21:44 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-23 15:48 gud
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