hamlib not compiling well

hamlib not compiling well

[w9ya]

Hey gang;

I am trying to write some Mandrake spec files for tlf and a few other
packages. In the process I am not able to use rpm -ba to compile the spec
files for hamlib.

I am running into a problem that I have not seen before. There are files
being created but they are without the ".so"in the file name, I tried
adding "--enable-shared" to the configure, but this did not work, nor have
I ever required this.

I am sure I am just brain farting on why this is happening or much more
importantly what it is I need to do to get a decent compile; but does
anyone have any helpful ideas ?

TIA

Vy 73;

Bob
w9ya

Re: hamlib not compiling well

[pa3gcu]

On Wednesday 07 July 2004 07:40, w9ya@arrl.net wrote:
> Hey gang;
>
> I am trying to write some Mandrake spec files for tlf and a few other
> packages. In the process I am not able to use rpm -ba to compile the spec
> files for hamlib.
>
> I am running into a problem that I have not seen before. There are files
> being created but they are without the ".so"in the file name, I tried
> adding "--enable-shared" to the configure, but this did not work, nor have
> I ever required this.

After installing libs one needs to use 'ldconfig' to configure dynamic linker 
run time bindings, as show in the manual page of ldconfig.
I presume this is your problem.

>
> I am sure I am just brain farting on why this is happening or much more
> importantly what it is I need to do to get a decent compile; but does
> anyone have any helpful ideas ?
>
> TIA
>
> Vy 73;
>
> Bob
> w9ya

-- 
If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because they
try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/

Re: hamlib not compiling well

[w9ya]

> On Wednesday 07 July 2004 07:40, w9ya@arrl.net wrote:
>> Hey gang;
>>
>> I am trying to write some Mandrake spec files for tlf and a few other
>> packages. In the process I am not able to use rpm -ba to compile the
>> spec files for hamlib.
>>
>> I am running into a problem that I have not seen before. There are
>> files being created but they are without the ".so"in the file name, I
>> tried adding "--enable-shared" to the configure, but this did not
>> work, nor have I ever required this.
>
> After installing libs one needs to use 'ldconfig' to configure dynamic
> linker  run time bindings, as show in the manual page of ldconfig.
> I presume this is your problem.

Um, perhaps I was not clear about this. If that is my fault, I am sorry.

This is prior to installing the libs.

Bob
w9ya


>
>>
>> I am sure I am just brain farting on why this is happening or much
>> more importantly what it is I need to do to get a decent compile; but
>> does anyone have any helpful ideas ?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Vy 73;
>>
>> Bob
>> w9ya
>
> --
> If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because they
> try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
> is built on organized crime.
>
> Regards Richard
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
> http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
>
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Just installed RedHat 9

[John Montanez]

Hello,

I just installed RedHat 9, and am trying to recompile the kernel to include
support for amateur radio.  I get a message telling me that the kernel is to
big to be able to make a boot disk.  Can anyone tell me what sort of things
I can safely leave out when I configure the kernel to make it smaller.  It's
probably obvious but I'm a newbie at linux.

John / KC4TXC

Re: Just installed RedHat 9

[pa3gcu]

On Wednesday 07 July 2004 19:58, John Montanez wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just installed RedHat 9, and am trying to recompile the kernel to include
> support for amateur radio.  I get a message telling me that the kernel is
> to big to be able to make a boot disk.  Can anyone tell me what sort of
> things I can safely leave out when I configure the kernel to make it
> smaller.  It's probably obvious but I'm a newbie at linux.

Does not redhat 9 already have ax25 support then, i know redhat 8 had it as 
default so why would version 9 not have it.???

To answer you question about what and what not to compile would need a very 
long answer.
Take a quick look at my web page, its old but should give you some hints.

>
> John / KC4TXC

-- 
If the Linux community is a bunch of thieves because they
try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/

Re: Just installed RedHat 9

[John Montanez]

First I would like to thank everyone who has taken the trouble to respond.
Thank you all.

> Does not redhat 9 already have ax25 support then, i know redhat 8 had it
as
> default so why would version 9 not have it.???

I don't think so because when I tried to install the FBB bulletin board
program I got a message telling me ax25 support was needed.  Thanks I will
check out your website.  I still can't seem to get this kernal thing right.
I compiled it but can't get it to load.  Looks like I'll be working on this
for a while till I learn more about linux.

John / KC4TXC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pa3gcu" <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl>
To: "John Montanez" <jemontanez@knology.net>
Cc: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Just installed RedHat 9


> On Wednesday 07 July 2004 19:58, John Montanez wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just installed RedHat 9, and am trying to recompile the kernel to
include
> > support for amateur radio.  I get a message telling me that the kernel
is
> > to big to be able to make a boot disk.  Can anyone tell me what sort of
> > things I can safely leave out when I configure the kernel to make it
> > smaller.  It's probably obvious but I'm a newbie at linux.
>
> Does not redhat 9 already have ax25 support then, i know redhat 8 had it
as
> default so why would version 9 not have it.???
>
> To answer you question about what and what not to compile would need a
very
> long answer.
> Take a quick look at my web page, its old but should give you some hints.
>

Re: Just installed RedHat 9

[John Bennett]

RH9 does have ax25 support, but only for the soundcard modem. If you
intend to use KISS, you will need to rebuild the kernel. Be warned that
one of the ax25.h files fails to include another necessary header and
can cause configure to fail if it attempts to test for the presence of
ax25. A lot of if's here, but this can and does happen. Case in point,
ax25 support in Xastir will fail on RH9 because of this omission. On my
system, they are found at:

/usr/include/linux/ax25.h
/usr/include/netax25/ax25.h	<-- this one has the required includes

If you have not done so already, make sure you get all the current ax25
tarballs off of Sourceforge and install them. Even though you may not
think you need them:

libax25
ax25-tools
ax25-apps

The apps can be useful to troubleshoot your setup. For example, I often
use the listen and call binaries to check my setup.

If you need to rebuild the kernel, be sure you copy the appropriate
config file from the configs directory to the root of the source tree
(be sure that it is named '.config' on the copy). The configs directory
is found in the root of the source tree. Do *NOT* do a 'make mrproper'
as this will completely wipe out the '.config' file. After doing this,
the only changes that you will need to make to the config is to set the
correct processor (i686 covers a lot of territory...) and select the
serial port kiss driver to be loaded as a module. Doing this will
preserve all the configuration settings and features that were with the
distribution. If you don't, a lot of stuff in X will break.

If you are using the latest rpms from Red Hat (they still have them on
their site), be advised that after the RH manuals were completed, RH
changed how the upgrade patches to the kernel were applied (for building
from the source). After downloading the src rpm, you will need to
install/build by doing the following:

rpm -Uvh kernel*.src.rpm
cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS
rpmbuild -bp kernel-2.4.spec	<-- this will take awhile
cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel*/linux*
cp configs/kernel-2.4.20-i686.config ./.config    <-- or whatever
vi Makefile    <-- change EXTRAVERSION to something unique for you
make menuconfig <-- selections as discussed above
make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install install

If you want grub to use your new kernel as the default, you will need to
edit grub.conf in /boot/grub. Suggest you make this change *after* you
have tested the new kernel.

Non-kernel rpms should be installed using the '-Fvh' option.

Hope this helps.

73, John
n4xi

On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 16:36, John Montanez wrote:
> First I would like to thank everyone who has taken the trouble to respond.
> Thank you all.
> 
> > Does not redhat 9 already have ax25 support then, i know redhat 8 had it
> as
> > default so why would version 9 not have it.???
> 
> I don't think so because when I tried to install the FBB bulletin board
> program I got a message telling me ax25 support was needed.  Thanks I will
> check out your website.  I still can't seem to get this kernal thing right.
> I compiled it but can't get it to load.  Looks like I'll be working on this
> for a while till I learn more about linux.
> 
> John / KC4TXC
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "pa3gcu" <pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl>
> To: "John Montanez" <jemontanez@knology.net>
> Cc: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Just installed RedHat 9
> 
> 
> > On Wednesday 07 July 2004 19:58, John Montanez wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I just installed RedHat 9, and am trying to recompile the kernel to
> include
> > > support for amateur radio.  I get a message telling me that the kernel
> is
> > > to big to be able to make a boot disk.  Can anyone tell me what sort of
> > > things I can safely leave out when I configure the kernel to make it
> > > smaller.  It's probably obvious but I'm a newbie at linux.
> >
> > Does not redhat 9 already have ax25 support then, i know redhat 8 had it
> as
> > default so why would version 9 not have it.???
> >
> > To answer you question about what and what not to compile would need a
> very
> > long answer.
> > Take a quick look at my web page, its old but should give you some hints.
> >
> 
> 
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John Bennett
Evansville, IN
Amateur Radio Web: http://home.insightbb.com/~n4xi
Where am I? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?N4XI
Bike Racing Web: http://home.insightbb.com/~xibike

Re: Just installed RedHat 9

[John Montanez]

Again I would like to say thanks to everyone who has taken the trouble to
respond to my request for help.  Thank you all.



I finally managed to build a custom kernel.  I resorted to reading the
instructions in the documentation.  Just like they say, "If all else fails
read the instructions".  I followed the instructions step by step, added the
amateur radio features that I wanted in the config file using xconfig,
followed the remaining steps in the instructions and everything else was
automatic.



If I had done this to begin with, even a dummy like me would have had
absolutely no problem customizing the RedHat 9 kernel.



John / KC4TXC

Re: Just installed RedHat 9

[M Taylor]

On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 12:58:47PM -0500, John Montanez wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just installed RedHat 9, and am trying to recompile the kernel to include
> support for amateur radio.  I get a message telling me that the kernel is to
> big to be able to make a boot disk.  Can anyone tell me what sort of things
> I can safely leave out when I configure the kernel to make it smaller.  It's

Anything you don't need. :-) Don't include drivers for hardware you don't
have. But I suspect it may be hard to fit on a floppy.

I suspect that you need to do 'make bzdisk', in case you are trying to
use 'make zdisk'.

Re: Just installed RedHat 9

[Wilbert Knol]

> I just installed RedHat 9, and am trying to recompile the kernel to
> include support for amateur radio.  I get a message telling me that
> the kernel is to big to be able to make a boot disk. 

Unless you are planning to boot off a floppy, I suggest you ignore 
that message. Just build the kernel and use it.

Most modern distros come with a kernel that is already AX25-enabled. 
Mdk and SuSE do. Are you *sure* you need to re-compile?

Wilbert, ZL2BSJ

Re: Just installed RedHat 9

[Jeff Camp]

I had to do the same things with RH9.  I think ax25 is there by default, but
mkiss support isn't.

After you've done your "make config" and "make dep" use "make bzImage" and
you may end up with a kernel small enough to fit on a floppy if you haven't
turned on too many features during the config process.  Look for a file
called bzImage in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot.  If you're gutsy, you can
just edit the .config file manually and turn on mkiss support there rather
than going through the "make config" process.  It does the same thing and
you don't have to answer the config questions for 15 minutes.

73,
Jeff
N0WJP

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wilbert Knol" <w.knol@niwa.co.nz>
To: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Just installed RedHat 9


>
> > I just installed RedHat 9, and am trying to recompile the kernel to
> > include support for amateur radio.  I get a message telling me that
> > the kernel is to big to be able to make a boot disk.
>
> Unless you are planning to boot off a floppy, I suggest you ignore
> that message. Just build the kernel and use it.
>
> Most modern distros come with a kernel that is already AX25-enabled.
> Mdk and SuSE do. Are you *sure* you need to re-compile?
>
> Wilbert, ZL2BSJ
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Re: hamlib not compiling well

[pa3gcu]

On Wednesday 07 July 2004 17:59, w9ya@arrl.net wrote:
> >> I am running into a problem that I have not seen before. There are
> >> files being created but they are without the ".so"in the file name, I
> >> tried adding "--enable-shared" to the configure, but this did not
> >> work, nor have I ever required this.
> >
> > After installing libs one needs to use 'ldconfig' to configure dynamic
> > linker  run time bindings, as show in the manual page of ldconfig.
> > I presume this is your problem.
>
> Um, perhaps I was not clear about this. If that is my fault, I am sorry.
>
> This is prior to installing the libs.

Whatever, but i have just retrived hamlib-1.1.4.tar.bz2 decompressed it and 
simply did;

./configure
make
make install

Things look ok to me. .so files do get created in subdirs, make install 
installs everything in /usr/local/lib and seeminly links things as well.

> Bob
> w9ya

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try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/

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Re: hamlib not compiling well

[w9ya]

> On Wednesday 07 July 2004 17:59, w9ya@arrl.net wrote:
>> >> I am running into a problem that I have not seen before. There are
>> files being created but they are without the ".so"in the file name,
>> I tried adding "--enable-shared" to the configure, but this did not
>> work, nor have I ever required this.
>> >
>> > After installing libs one needs to use 'ldconfig' to configure
>> dynamic linker  run time bindings, as show in the manual page of
>> ldconfig. I presume this is your problem.
>>
>> Um, perhaps I was not clear about this. If that is my fault, I am
>> sorry.
>>
>> This is prior to installing the libs.
>
> Whatever, but i have just retrived hamlib-1.1.4.tar.bz2 decompressed it
> and  simply did;
>
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> Things look ok to me. .so files do get created in subdirs, make install
> installs everything in /usr/local/lib and seeminly links things as well.

Hey Richard;

And well they might seem o.k. for you.

I was making rpms for Mandrake, which entails a different approach.

1 - /usr/local is off limits.
2 - File permissions and ownership issues may be present.
3 - Extraneous files may have to noticed and removed.
4 - ALL files must be accounted for.
5 - Various other distribution specific issues in many other areas often
need to be attended to. (And these can be many.)

But I definitely can say this; even with your approach, if you had tried
to do a simple compile on a Mandrake 10.0 Official machine you would have
run into the same problems I had.

BTW I reported the fix yesterday or the day before for this, so the
problem is solved; it appears to be a versioning issue with
libtool/libtldl.

Finally IMHO it is a really bad idea to just compile, even into
/usr/local, on a system (like mandrake, debian, red hat, suse, and many
other "distros") that uses a file tracking package management system. You
run the risk of system instability or worse.

Thanks for the concerns es vy 73;

Bob
w9ya

>
>> Bob
>> w9ya
>
> --
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> try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
> is built on organized crime.
>
> Regards Richard
> pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
> http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
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Re: hamlib not compiling well

[w9ya]

Hey again gang;


I added this to the top of the spec file to get libtool to NOT libtoolize:

 %define __libtoolize /bin/true

Apparently there is a libtool version mismatch somewhere ? (Just a guess.)
Mandrake uses this:

 libtool-1.4.3-10mdk

Anyways, I am not sure these files actually work (grin)....but at least
they exist correctly and in the right places.

I tested this fix with the spec file that came with hamlib 1.2.0.src.rpm
btw, although this problem existed also with 1.1.4 as well.


Vy 73;

Bob
w9ya



> Hey gang;
>
> I am trying to write some Mandrake spec files for tlf and a few other
> packages. In the process I am not able to use rpm -ba to compile the
> spec files for hamlib.
>
> I am running into a problem that I have not seen before. There are files
> being created but they are without the ".so"in the file name, I tried
> adding "--enable-shared" to the configure, but this did not work, nor
> have I ever required this.
>
> I am sure I am just brain farting on why this is happening or much more
> importantly what it is I need to do to get a decent compile; but does
> anyone have any helpful ideas ?
>
> TIA
>
> Vy 73;
>
> Bob
> w9ya