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* Strange Network behaviour
@ 2004-07-02 15:30 Hermann Gottschalk
  2004-07-04 16:46 ` bert hubert
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Hermann Gottschalk @ 2004-07-02 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

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Hi,
following Situation:

4 Servers 
involved Hardware:
  - Motherboard: MSI MS-6728 
  - Onboard Gigabit NetworkInterface: Intel 82562EZ (e1000)
  - 100 MBit NetworkInterface: D-Link DFE-530TX (via-rhine)

Connected through a 1GB-Switch and a 100MBit-Switch. The second
connects about 40 X-Terminals too.

On all Servers is a SuSE Linux 9.0 professional installed; online
updates every night.  When they start up, everything is fine. After
some hours when i want to do a tcpdump on one of the Interfaces i get:

'tcpdump: socket: Address family not supported by protocol'  

ethereal doesn't find any interface.

Sometimes some of the 100MBit-IFs didn't answer anymore. The only
cure was to reboot. Neither rcnetwork restart nore unloading the
network-module did help.

This happend for a long time until there was a kernel patch from
2.4.21-215 to 2.4.21-266. Since it is installed this error doesn't
appear anymore.

On my home-system with a sis900 NW-IF the same happend once. But
there too is kernel 2.4.21-266 now.

Does someone has have made the same experience or does someone has
an idea what was the reason.

Thanks for any ideas in advance

Greetings
Hermann

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* Strange network behaviour
@ 2007-12-04 22:44 Mike
       [not found] ` <4755D859.4090805-kcIQ9yavhvsV/sYkb9DZNQ@public.gmane.org>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Mike @ 2007-12-04 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

Hello,
I already spoke to Izik Eidus. He told me to publish the results to the 
problem at the mailinglist.

Some time ago I wrote to the kvm-devel mailinglist that I had a problem 
with my guests' networking dying.
I got the hint to change the network card emulation. That worked.

Now I noticed a strange behaviour.
I have a gameserver running in a guest os. No problems on performance 
side, really fast.
The only thing, when I make a ping test after unspecific time periods I 
get this: (this peaks are even there if the gameserver isn't running)

   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=123ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=116ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=241ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=382ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=135ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=397ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=647ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=857ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=1156ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=692ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=604ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=188ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=57

This ping peaks are on *all* guests I'm currently running.
I did a ping test the same time to the Host, with this result:

   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.169: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57

As you can see, no peaks.
Example of start command from a guest:
kvm -hda apache.img -hdb apache_storage.img -m 512 -boot c -net 
nic,vlan=0,macaddr=00:16:3e:00:00:01,model=rtl8139 -net tap -nographic 
-daemonize

Here the pings from the guest started with the command line listed above:

   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=363ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=368ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=972ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=673ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=1133ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=1198ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=1881ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=2341ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=2401ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=2006ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=2638ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=3590ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=383ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.171: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57

So I tried disabling kvm when starting a guest.
and here the guest *with* -no-kvm in the command line:

   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
   Reply from 195.24.77.170: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57

The other guest, without -no-kvm have the ping peaks. Also here, no ping 
peaks from the host.
Server load is really really low at the moment of the tests.

Maybe you have an idea where this peaks are coming from?
I'm using KVM-55 on Ubuntu 7.10 server with Kernel Linux A050 
2.6.22-14-server #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 22:09:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux.
My CPU is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ (Dual Core) with 8GByte of RAM.

Greetings from Luxembourg.
Mike Weimichkirch

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2007-12-05 11:46                   ` Uri Lublin
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2007-12-05 19:49                                       ` Lynn Kerby
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