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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, bgerst@didntduck.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:25:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040729122542.GP2349@fs.tum.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040722025539.5d35c4cb.akpm@osdl.org>

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:55:39AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> wrote:
> >
> > Changes that remove functionally like Greg's patch are hopefully 
> > still 2.7 stuff - 2.6 is a stable kernel series and smooth upgrades 
> > inside a stable kernel series are a must for many users.
> 
> I don't necessarily agree that such changes in the userspace interface
> should be tied to the kernel version number, really.  That's a three or
> four year warning period, which is unreasonably long.  Six to twelve months
> should be long enough for udev-based replacements to stabilise and
> propagate out into distributions.
> 
> That being said, mid-2005 would be an appropriate time to remove devfs.  If
> that schedule pushes things along faster than they would otherwise have
> progressed, well, good.
>...

I'm currently wondering whether part of our discussion might be about a 
non-issue:

It's true that there's not a pressing need for opening 2.7 today.

But do you assume that this will still be true one year from now?

If 2.7 will open during the next 12 months, "mid-2005" would still be 
after 2.7 opened, and such non-urgent cleanups could then go into 2.7 .

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-29 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-21 14:15 [PATCH] delete devfs Greg KH
2004-07-21 14:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-07-21 14:35   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-21 14:52   ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 21:19     ` Jesse Stockall
2004-07-21 21:27       ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 21:53         ` Jesse Stockall
2004-07-21 22:05           ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 22:17             ` Jesse Stockall
2004-07-21 22:47             ` Oliver Neukum
2004-07-22  6:49               ` Greg KH
2004-07-22  9:55                 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-07-22 10:08                   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-22 16:13                 ` Matt Porter
2004-07-23 19:06                   ` [RFC]: CONFIG_UNSUPPORTED (was: Re: [PATCH] delete devfs) R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-23 20:04                     ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-23 21:17                       ` Russell King
2004-07-23 21:22                       ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-23 23:35                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-07-23 22:01                         ` [RFC]: CONFIG_UNSUPPORTED Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-07-22  1:08           ` [PATCH] delete devfs Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2004-07-22  1:48             ` Mike Snitzer
2004-07-21 22:02         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-21 22:07           ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 22:14             ` David Weinehall
2004-07-21 22:31             ` Brian Gerst
2004-07-21 23:11               ` New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs) Jonathan Corbet
2004-07-21 23:52                 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22  9:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22  7:04                     ` Greg KH
2004-07-22 10:19                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 12:55                         ` Josh Boyer
2004-07-22 11:32                       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-07-22 19:12                         ` Greg KH
2004-07-22 19:33                     ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 22:28                       ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-22 23:25                         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-23  2:22                           ` Tim Wright
2004-07-23  6:31                             ` Ville Herva
2004-07-23 21:04                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-07-23 21:08                                 ` Ville Herva
2004-07-25 11:59                             ` Jan Knutar
2004-07-25 18:53                               ` Jesper Juhl
2004-07-23  8:16                         ` szonyi calin
2004-07-23 12:21                           ` Jonathan Corbet
2004-07-23 19:59                             ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-24 14:24                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-23 14:54                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-23 15:50                             ` szonyi calin
2004-07-27 22:18                               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-28 21:25                                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-08-02 18:48                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-03 22:07                                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-07-24 16:21                           ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2004-07-27 22:12                         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-28  7:24                           ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-22 23:01                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 20:18                         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 20:28                         ` Kevin Fox
2004-07-23 20:09                           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 21:01                         ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-23  0:39                         ` Jason Cooper
2004-07-23 20:57                         ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-25 13:30                           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-26  1:38                         ` Ben Hoskings
2004-07-26  2:12                           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-28  6:25                             ` Ben Hoskings
2004-07-28 21:23                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-08-04 21:53                               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-28 21:22                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-07-29 12:25                     ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2004-07-22  1:33               ` [PATCH] delete devfs Mike Snitzer
2004-07-21 23:26             ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-21 22:11           ` Francois Romieu
2004-07-21 22:40             ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-21 23:15               ` Francois Romieu
2004-07-22  8:23               ` sam
2004-07-22 10:24                 ` Gene Heskett
2004-07-22 10:58                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 21:06                   ` sam
2004-07-23  0:21                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-07-22 22:19                   ` Paul Jakma
2004-07-22 19:22         ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-22 17:56       ` Deepak Saxena
2004-07-21 14:52   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-21 14:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-07-21 18:25   ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 19:55     ` Matthew Garrett
2004-07-21 19:34   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-07-21 21:13   ` Ben Collins
2004-07-21 22:20   ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-07-22 19:44     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-21 15:49 ` Kasper Sandberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-22  7:45 New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs) Svetoslav Slavtchev
2004-07-22 10:40 ` Han Boetes
2004-07-22 13:17 Svetoslav Slavtchev

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