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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	riel@redhat.com, piggin@cyberone.com.au, kernel@kolivas.org
Subject: Re: swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:37:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040906223724.GH3106@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <413CD4FF.8070408@sgi.com>

On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:22:07PM -0500, Ray Bryant wrote:
> We were planning on suggesting that such users set swappiness=0 to give
> user pages priority over the page cache pages.  But it doesn't look like 
> that works very well in the more recent kernels.
> One (perhaps) desirable feature would be for intermediate values of 
> swappiness to have behavior in between the two extremes (mapped pages have 
> higher priority vs page cache pages having priority over unreferenced 
> mapped pages),
> so that one would have finer grain control over the amount of swap used.  
> I'm not sure how to achieve such a goal, however.  :-)

Priority paging again? A perennial suggestion.


On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:22:07PM -0500, Ray Bryant wrote:
> On a separate issue, the response to my proposal for a mempolicy to control
> allocation of page cache pages has been <ahem> underwhelming.
> (See: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-mm&m=109416852113561&w=2
>  and  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-mm&m=109416852416997&w=2 )
> I wonder if this is because I just posted it to linux-mm or its not fleshed 
> out enough yet to be interesting?

It was very noncontroversial. Since it's apparently useful to someone
and generally low-impact it should probably be merged.


-- wli

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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	riel@redhat.com, piggin@cyberone.com.au, kernel@kolivas.org
Subject: Re: swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:37:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040906223724.GH3106@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <413CD4FF.8070408@sgi.com>

On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:22:07PM -0500, Ray Bryant wrote:
> We were planning on suggesting that such users set swappiness=0 to give
> user pages priority over the page cache pages.  But it doesn't look like 
> that works very well in the more recent kernels.
> One (perhaps) desirable feature would be for intermediate values of 
> swappiness to have behavior in between the two extremes (mapped pages have 
> higher priority vs page cache pages having priority over unreferenced 
> mapped pages),
> so that one would have finer grain control over the amount of swap used.  
> I'm not sure how to achieve such a goal, however.  :-)

Priority paging again? A perennial suggestion.


On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:22:07PM -0500, Ray Bryant wrote:
> On a separate issue, the response to my proposal for a mempolicy to control
> allocation of page cache pages has been <ahem> underwhelming.
> (See: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-mm&m=109416852113561&w=2
>  and  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-mm&m=109416852416997&w=2 )
> I wonder if this is because I just posted it to linux-mm or its not fleshed 
> out enough yet to be interesting?

It was very noncontroversial. Since it's apparently useful to someone
and generally low-impact it should probably be merged.


-- wli
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-06 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-06 19:11 swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 20:10   ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 21:22   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 21:22     ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 21:36     ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 21:36       ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 22:37     ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-09-06 22:37       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:51       ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-06 23:51         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07  0:31         ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-07  0:31           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 22:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 22:48   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-06 23:09   ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-06 23:27   ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 23:27     ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 23:34     ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-06 23:34       ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07  0:03       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-07  0:03         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-07  1:34         ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07  1:34           ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 10:38         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07 10:38           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07 10:56           ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-08 16:45             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 16:45               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  1:12               ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 17:03           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-07 17:03             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-07 21:20         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-07 21:20           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08  2:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08  2:18             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 14:20           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 16:54             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 16:54               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 19:35               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 19:35                 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 19:30                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 19:30                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  3:06                   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  3:06                     ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  2:14                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  2:14                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 14:21                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 14:21                         ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  3:09                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09  3:09                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 14:16                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 17:23                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 17:23                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-28  1:54                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-28  3:36                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-28  3:36                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  0:36                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  4:23                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-29  4:23                               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-30 17:15                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-30 17:15                               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 17:31             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 17:31               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 18:04               ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 18:04                 ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 19:50                 ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 19:50                   ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 21:10                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 21:10                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 21:55                     ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 21:55                       ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 22:20                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 22:20                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 23:22                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 23:22                           ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-09 16:26                         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-08 22:28                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-08 22:28                       ` Alan Cox
2004-09-08 23:42                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 23:42                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 19:54               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 19:54                 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 15:19           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 15:19             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-14 18:31     ` Florin Andrei
2004-09-14 20:15       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-14 22:53         ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-14 21:41           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-15  0:22             ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-16 18:50               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-17  0:22                 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-15 16:54         ` Florin Andrei

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