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From: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
To: "'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:38:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200410062038.i96KcJ608221@unix-os.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041006123959.4cf20b3b.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 12:40 PM
> "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com> wrote:
> >  Andrew, can I safely interpret this response as you are OK with having
> >  cache_hot_time set to 10 ms for now?
>
> I have a lot of scheduler changes queued up and I view this change as being
> not very high priority.  If someone sends a patch to update -mm then we can
> run with that, however Ingo's auto-tuning seems a far preferable approach.
>
> >  And you will merge this change for 2.6.9?
>
> I was not planning on doing so, but could be persuaded, I guess.
>
> It's very, very late for this and subtle CPU scheduler regressions tend to
> take a long time (weeks or months) to be identified.


Let me try to persuade ;-).  First, it hard to accept the fact that we are
leaving 11% of performance on the table just due to a poorly chosen parameter.
This much percentage difference on a db workload is a huge deal.  It basically
"unfairly" handicap 2.6 kernel behind competition, even handicap ourselves compare
to 2.4 kernel.  We have established from various workloads that 10 ms works the
best, from db to java workload.  What more data can we provide to swing you in
that direction?

Secondly, let me ask the question again from the first mail thread:  this value
*WAS* 10 ms for a long time, before the domain scheduler.  What's so special
about domain scheduler that all the sudden this parameter get changed to 2.5?
I'd like to see some justification/prior measurement for such change when
domain scheduler kicks in.

- Ken



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-06 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-06  0:42 Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06  0:47 ` Con Kolivas
2004-10-06  1:02   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  0:58 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  3:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  4:30   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  4:51     ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  5:00       ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  5:09         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  5:21           ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  5:33             ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  5:46               ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  6:19               ` new dev model (was Re: Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms) Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  6:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  8:56                   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-06  9:44                   ` bert hubert
2004-10-06 14:00                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06 19:40                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 19:48                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 19:58                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 20:37                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-07  1:08                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07  0:02                       ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-06  9:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06  9:57                   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-06 19:33                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 22:23                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-06  5:52       ` Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:27       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:39         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 20:38           ` Chen, Kenneth W [this message]
2004-10-06 20:43             ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 23:14               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-07  2:26                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-07  6:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-07  7:08                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07  7:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 20:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 21:03               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06  7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 17:18   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 22:46     ` Peter Williams
2004-10-06 13:29 ` [patch] sched: auto-tuning task-migration Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 13:44   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 17:49   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 20:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 21:18       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-07  6:10         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-21  5:08   ` Paul Jackson
     [not found] <200410071028.01931.habanero@us.ibm.com>
2004-10-07 15:58 ` Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Andrew Theurer
2004-10-08  9:47   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 14:11     ` Andrew Theurer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-07 18:44 Albert Cahalan

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