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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: kenneth.w.chen@intel.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, judith@osdl.org
Subject: Re: Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:46:41 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <416386C1.5020200@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041005223307.375597ee.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
>>Any thoughts about making -rc's into -pre's, and doing real -rc's?
> 
> 
> I think what we have is OK.  The idea is that once 2.6.9 is released we
> merge up all the well-tested code which is sitting in various trees and has
> been under test for a few weeks.  As soon as all that well-tested code is
> merged, we go into -rc.  So we're pipelining the development of 2.6.10 code
> with the stabilisation of 2.6.9.
> 
> If someone goes and develops *new* code after the release of, say, 2.6.9
> then tough tittie, it's too late for 2.6.9: we don't want new code - we
> want old-n-tested code.  So your typed-in-after-2.6.9 code goes into
> 2.6.11.
> 
> That's the theory anyway.  If it means that it takes a long time to get
> code into the kernel.org tree, well, that's a cost.  That latency may be
> high but the bandwidth is pretty good.
> 
> There are exceptions of course.  Completely new
> drivers/filesystems/architectures can go in any old time becasue they won't
> break existing setups.  Although I do tend to hold back on even these in
> the (probably overoptimistic) hope that people will then concentrate on
> mainline bug fixing and testing.
> 
> 
>> It would have caught the NFS bug that made 2.6.8.1, and probably
>> the cd burning problems... Or is Linus' patching finger just too
>> itchy?
> 
> 
> uh, let's say that incident was "proof by counter example".
> 

Heh :)

OK I agree on all these points. And yeah it has worked quite well...

But by real -rc, I mean 2.6.9 is a week after 2.6.9-rcx minus the
extraversion string; nothing more.

The main point (for me, at least) is that if -rc1 comes out, and I'm
still working on some bug or having something else tested then I can
hurry up and/or send you and Linus a polite email saying don't release
yet.

Would probably be a help for people running automated testing and
regression tests, etc. And just generally increase the userbase a
little bit.

Catching the odd paper bag bug would be a fringe benefit.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-06  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-06  0:42 Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06  0:47 ` Con Kolivas
2004-10-06  1:02   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  0:58 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  3:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  4:30   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  4:51     ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  5:00       ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  5:09         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  5:21           ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  5:33             ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  5:46               ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-10-06  6:19               ` new dev model (was Re: Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms) Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  6:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  8:56                   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-06  9:44                   ` bert hubert
2004-10-06 14:00                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06 19:40                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 19:48                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 19:58                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 20:37                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-07  1:08                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07  0:02                       ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-06  9:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06  9:57                   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-06 19:33                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 22:23                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-06  5:52       ` Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:27       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:39         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 20:38           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 20:43             ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 23:14               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-07  2:26                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-07  6:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-07  7:08                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07  7:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 20:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 21:03               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06  7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 17:18   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 22:46     ` Peter Williams
2004-10-06 13:29 ` [patch] sched: auto-tuning task-migration Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 13:44   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 17:49   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 20:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 21:18       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-07  6:10         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-21  5:08   ` Paul Jackson
     [not found] <200410071028.01931.habanero@us.ibm.com>
2004-10-07 15:58 ` Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Andrew Theurer
2004-10-08  9:47   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 14:11     ` Andrew Theurer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-07 18:44 Albert Cahalan

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