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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>
Cc: "K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>,
	Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>, Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>,
	Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>,
	Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>,
	Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
	Gunther Persoons <gunther_persoons@spymac.com>,
	emann@mrv.com, Shane Shrybman <shrybman@aei.ca>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@codito.com>,
	Stefan Schweizer <sschweizer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-3
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:31:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041116223135.GA27250@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041116222039.662f41ac@mango.fruits.de>


* Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net> wrote:

> I have not yet tried to get this kernel to lock up yet, but i made
> another interesting observation:
> 
> irq 8 at prio 98 (only irq 1 with higher prio 99). running rtc_wakeup
> in the console (it runs SCHED_FIFO allright). Switching consoles
> (different text consoles - not swithcing to X, though this basically
> produces similar results) produces large jitters (around 1 ms) and
> occasional missed irq's and piggy messages. This is completely
> reproducable here. The rtc histogram doesn't show any large wakeup
> latencies.

interesting, i'll try to reproduce this.

btw., for best rtc_wakeup results you should chrt IRQ#0 to prio 99 too,
because it uses rtc_lock, otherwise it's an extra PI pass to undo the
lock inversion, which adds another 10 usecs or so to the worst-case
path.

and i'd suggest to chrt irq 1 back to below prio 90, maybe this explains
the console-switching latency? If you do a console-switch via the
keyboard then its priority 99 can get inherited by events/0 which then
does the quite expensive VGA console clearing/copying with priority 99,
possibly delaying rtc_wakeup quite significantly, easily for a
millisecond or so. So what you are seeing might be priority inheritance
handling at work!

> I sometimes do get large values in /proc/latency_trace, but they seem
> to be unrelated to the console switching.

could you post such a large latency trace? Are they like the bad traces
Mark is occasionally seeing, with some ridiculously large latency and a
ridiculously short execution trace?

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-16 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-16 16:09 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-3 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-16 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 18:41   ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-16 19:51   ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-16 21:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 21:20       ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 21:32         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 22:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 22:04             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 23:11               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 22:55                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 23:29                   ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-17  0:06                     ` john cooper
2004-11-17 11:23                       ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-17 12:28                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17 13:02                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17 12:14                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-17 13:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17 12:59                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-17 13:35                                 ` Paul Ma
2004-11-17 13:45                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17 13:00                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-17 15:01                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17  6:19                   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-11 ???
2004-11-16 21:42         ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-3 K.R. Foley
2004-11-16 21:47           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 22:31         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-11-16 21:33           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 21:40             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 23:03               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17  7:59       ` BUG with 0.7.27-11, with KGDB Amit Shah
2004-11-17  8:26         ` Bill Huey
2004-11-17  9:19           ` Bill Huey
2004-11-17 12:05             ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-17 14:01 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-3 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-16 16:15 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-16 17:39 ` K.R. Foley
2004-10-27  0:15 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.3 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 10:58 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm2-V0.7.1 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-06 15:57   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm3-V0.7.18 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-08  9:16     ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm3-V0.7.19 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-08 16:57       ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm3-V0.7.21 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-09 16:05         ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm3-V0.7.23 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-11 14:44           ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm3-V0.7.25-0 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-11 21:51             ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm3-V0.7.25-1 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 12:54               ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-0 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 13:09                 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-1 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 13:40                   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-3 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 14:20                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 15:08                       ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 15:29                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-16 15:52                           ` Stefan Schweizer
2004-11-16 18:43                     ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-11-16 18:51                       ` Lee Revell
2004-11-16 19:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17  0:36                     ` Bill Huey

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