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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	James.Smart@Emulex.Com, jejb@steeleye.com, ltuikov@yahoo.com,
	Eric.Moore@lsil.com, andrew.patterson@hp.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:15:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050819141552.GC12485@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4304EA09.1070804@adaptec.com>

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:05:29PM -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 08/18/05 13:56, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I was trying to avoid the need for an rport object, but I'm not yet sure
> > it's feasible.  We certainly won't put in target-persistency support
> > similar to FC, that was just a hack to get the existing drivers migrated
> > without lots of complaints, it's not going in for new transports like
> > SAS or iSCSI.
> 
> Hmm, I remember working on iSCSI exactly 5 years ago.
> Is this considered new?  (er, I mean in light of SCSI Core)

We've just added the first iSCSI LLDD (the open-iscsi software
initiator) to the scsi git trees, so yes, this is considered new.

> I also remember it was that time when I asked about 8 byte LUNs
> to be supported transparently by SCSI Core.
> 
> It was also that time when I asked for "target" to be supported
> without "channel" and "id" as this had to be invented by
> the iSCSI LLDD as it needs to be invented by FC and USB.

Or just ignored.

> >  What we might need an rport for is to support SMP.  I'm
> > not yet sure how to do SMP passthrough, but we will need some object
> > to represent SMP ports.
> 
> Why?  How is this going to be used?  What is the architecture model?

We need some way to implement SMP passthrough.  One of the options is
to have a passthrough node that frames can be written to - for that we
obviously need an object for non-scsi target sas remote ports.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-19 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-18 14:02 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-18 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 20:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:15     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2005-08-24 12:46       ` SAS Management Protocol (SMP) Douglas Gilbert
2005-08-26 16:31         ` Luben Tuikov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 18:25 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-23 16:16 James.Smart
2005-08-23 17:28 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-24  0:02   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-26 15:47       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 19:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:44           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:53             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27  7:35               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:27               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29  5:16               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-29 17:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:20             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 17:25               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:31           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:34             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:09           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-23 17:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-22 23:08 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-08-24  8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20  4:15 James.Smart
2005-08-20  4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 17:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 17:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 18:23   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22  4:55 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-22 17:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 21:53     ` Mike Anderson
2005-08-23 23:55       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 17:12         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 20:05           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 20:42             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 21:48               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-23 11:10     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-08-23  6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-08-23 15:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-23 15:53   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-24  0:13   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-25 19:32     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-25 20:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 16:43         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 17:22           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-26 18:16             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 18:48               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:37                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:39                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27  7:11                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:13                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 18:48 James.Smart
2005-08-18 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-19 14:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:51     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:56         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 18:07             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 19:59               ` James Bottomley
2005-08-19 20:32                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 20:54                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20  9:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 17:34                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21  6:41                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-21 17:07                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 19:08             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 20:06 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 14:43 James.Smart
2005-08-18 11:57 James.Smart
2005-08-15 13:55 Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 14:19 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:04   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 15:33     ` Luben Tuikov

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