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From: Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@dell.com>,
	James.Smart@Emulex.Com, hch@lst.de, jejb@steeleye.com,
	ltuikov@yahoo.com, Eric.Moore@lsil.com, andrew.patterson@hp.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:10:10 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <430B0412.4040107@torque.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430A05F2.10009@adaptec.com>

Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 08/22/05 00:55, Matt Domsch wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 12:15:41AM -0400, James.Smart@Emulex.Com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>- There are some real challenges in supporting a udev-named boot
>>> device. For the most part, it's a distro issue, which is becoming
>>> better. PS: for $10, name a 2.6 distro that uses udev out
>>> of the box for disk names and its installation. For $10 more, 
>>> can it install/boot from one?
>>
>>
>>I won't get your $10, but RHEL4 has a mechanism to specify "install
>>onto BIOS disk N", where N is typically 80h (it's an int13 number,
>>what BIOS typically boots from).  EDD in anaconda handles the mapping
>>of BIOS disk number to /dev/whatever.
> 
> 
> Hi Matt!  How is it going?
> 
> I wonder, do you think it would advantageous to provide
> another label to a disk device which includes this mapping?
> 
> (This is in lieu to the "myriad of labels" notion I've been
> talking about recently, where vendors (BIOS, Dell, disk manufacturer,
> transport layer, etc, etc, etc.) provide yet another label.  This label
> is tacked to the LU (most commonly a disk, it is *not* an FS label.))
> 
> This way, user space, or whoever, can look up the LU (disk device)
> by a label, that label or whichever one.

A note on the subject of LU labels: recent SCSI disks from
Fujitsu, Hitachi and Maxtor (but I cannot confirm this
for Seagate disks) support the REPORT and SET DEVICE
IDENTIFIER SCSI commands. These use a non-volatile
area outside a disk's lba space in which a user can
write a label (with a max length of 16, 64 (min in current
draft) or 512 (max in current draft) bytes depending
on the vendor).

I believe recent ATA disks also have a similar area where
a disk label could be written by the OS/user.

Doug Gilbert

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-23 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-20  4:15 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-20  4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 17:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 17:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 18:23   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22  4:55 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-22 17:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 21:53     ` Mike Anderson
2005-08-23 23:55       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 17:12         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 20:05           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 20:42             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 21:48               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-23 11:10     ` Douglas Gilbert [this message]
2005-08-23  6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-08-23 15:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-23 15:53   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-24  0:13   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-25 19:32     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-25 20:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 16:43         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 17:22           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-26 18:16             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 18:48               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:37                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:39                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27  7:11                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:13                     ` Luben Tuikov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 18:25 James.Smart
2005-08-23 16:16 James.Smart
2005-08-23 17:28 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-24  0:02   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-26 15:47       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 19:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:44           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27  1:53             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27  7:35               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:27               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29  5:16               ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-29 17:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:20             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 17:25               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:31           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:34             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:09           ` James Bottomley
2005-08-23 17:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-22 23:08 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-08-24  8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 18:48 James.Smart
2005-08-18 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-19 14:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:51     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:56         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 18:07             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 19:59               ` James Bottomley
2005-08-19 20:32                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 20:54                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20  9:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 17:34                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21  6:41                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-21 17:07                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 19:08             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 20:06 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 14:43 James.Smart
2005-08-18 14:02 James.Smart
2005-08-18 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 20:05   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 11:57 James.Smart
2005-08-15 13:55 Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 14:19 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:04   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 15:33     ` Luben Tuikov

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