From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:53:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <430FC7B2.7080700@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430F710E.7020206@adaptec.com>
Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 08/26/05 15:24, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>Luben Tuikov wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Even simpler: the transport layer, calls SCSI Core, saying: "Hey here is
>>>a pointer to struct scsi_domain_device. If you want, you an send REPORT
>>>LUNS and other things to it."
>>
>>
>>For the SG_IO ioctl, /dev/sg and request_queue usage, SCSI core must map
>>an address (currently HCIL) into a scsi_domain_device pointer. These
>
>
> The request queue is associated with the LU, not the scsi_domain_device.
> When SCSI Core discovers the LU, it sets up the request queue for it,
> etc. Again this is the role of SCSI Core, not messing up with transport
> specific stuff.
>
>
>>upper layer kernel elements rely on this "SCSI address", and rely on the
>>fact that SCSI core can route from a block device straight to a SCSI
>>LLD, using nothing more than this "SCSI address."
>
>
> I don't get this.
More basically... An in-kernel C pointer, to a SCSI target device, is
not sufficient in all cases to address a target. This plays out most
often in userland interfaces such as ioctls.
>>That is the heart of the routing/addressing that the SCSI core must perform.
>
>
> Disagree: now: scsi_device <--> request_queue, then: struct LU <--> request_queue.
>
> The LU points to the domain_device (as its parent). The domain_device
> has a void *lldd_dev in it.
The current SCSI code largely already has this stuff.
>>Right now the addressing is hardcoded to HCIL. But that can be
>>changed... One proposal was to use (host,string) identifiers.
>
>
> Who? Who is proposing this? I never saw an email to SCSI Core about
> this proposal? Is there any more information about this proposal
> and what is the justification of it? Any specs and docs?
No specs, just a comment from IRC.
(host,string) could succeed in transporting both HCIL and non-HCIL
target identifiers.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-27 1:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-23 16:16 [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class James.Smart
2005-08-23 17:28 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-24 0:02 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 9:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-26 15:47 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 16:29 ` scsi device driver Yijian Wang
2005-08-26 19:24 ` [PATCH] minimal SAS transport class Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:44 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27 1:53 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-08-27 7:35 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:27 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 5:16 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-29 17:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:20 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 17:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-29 17:31 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:34 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-29 18:09 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-23 17:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 18:25 James.Smart
2005-08-22 23:08 Moore, Eric Dean
2005-08-24 8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 4:15 James.Smart
2005-08-20 4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 17:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 17:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-21 18:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 4:55 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-22 17:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-22 21:53 ` Mike Anderson
2005-08-23 23:55 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 17:12 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 20:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-24 20:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-24 21:48 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-23 11:10 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-08-23 6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-08-23 15:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-08-23 15:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-24 0:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-25 19:32 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-25 20:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 16:43 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 17:22 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-26 18:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-26 18:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:37 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-27 1:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-27 7:11 ` Stefan Richter
2005-08-28 22:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 18:48 James.Smart
2005-08-18 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-19 14:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:51 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 17:56 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 17:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 18:07 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2005-08-19 20:32 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 20:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-20 9:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-20 17:34 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-21 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-21 17:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-19 19:08 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-18 20:06 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 14:43 James.Smart
2005-08-18 14:02 James.Smart
2005-08-18 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 20:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-19 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-18 11:57 James.Smart
2005-08-15 13:55 Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 14:19 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:04 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-08-15 15:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15 15:33 ` Luben Tuikov
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