From: Dave C Boutcher <sleddog@us.ibm.com>
To: Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>,
johan@capvert.se, iscsitarget-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
mingz@ele.uri.edu, stgt <stgt-devel@lists.berlios.de>,
Robert Whitehead <WRWHITEHEAD@novell.com>,
scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] stgt a new version of iscsi target?
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:35:14 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051208213514.GA23039@cs.umn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <439892FC.8040900@cs.wisc.edu>
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 02:09:32PM -0600, Mike Christie wrote:
> James Bottomley wrote:
> >On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 13:10 -0600, Mike Christie wrote:
> >
> >>cleanup. In the end some of the scsi people liked the idea of throwing
> >>the non-read/write command to userspace and to do this we just decided
> >>to start over but I have been cutting and pasting your code and cleaning
> >>it up as I add more stuff.
> >
> >
> >To be honest, I'd like to see all command processing at user level
> >(including read/write ... for block devices, it shouldn't be that
> >inefficient, since you're merely going to say remap an area from one
> >device to another; as long as no data transformation ever occurs, the
> >user never touches the data and it all remains in the kernel page
> >cache).
>
> Ok, Tomo and I briefly talked about this when we saw Jeff's post about
> doing block layer drivers in userspace on lkml. I think we were somewhat
> prepared for this given some of your other replies.
>
> So Vlad and other target guys what do you think? Vlad are you going to
> continue to maintain scst as kernel only, or is there some place we can
> work together on this on - if your feelings are not hurt too much that
> is :) ?
Oofff....Architecturally I agree with James...do all command processing
in one place. On the other hand, the processing involved with a read or
write in the normal case (no aborts/resets/ordering/timeouts/etc) is
almost zero. Figure out the LBA and length and pass on the I/O. The
overhead of passing it up and down across the kernel boundary is likely
to be orders of magnitude larger than the actual processing. I would
personally rather not fix this decision in concrete until we could do
some actual measurements of a SCSI target under heavy load.
--
Dave Boutcher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-08 21:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <OF6932015B.01CF53D9-ONC12570D0.00462028@capvert.ins>
[not found] ` <43972C2D.9060500@cs.wisc.edu>
2005-12-08 18:46 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: stgt a new version of iscsi target? Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-08 18:54 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:30 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:31 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-08 19:10 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-08 19:48 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-08 20:09 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-08 21:35 ` Dave C Boutcher [this message]
2005-12-08 21:56 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:29 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:31 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 15:31 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:19 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 8:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-09 15:30 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 15:29 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-21 23:53 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-22 10:38 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-26 23:53 ` Ang: " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-28 16:32 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-31 3:27 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-31 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-09 15:28 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:23 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 1:15 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-10 15:30 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:22 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 8:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-10 15:32 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 15:54 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-14 15:17 ` [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:09 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-14 15:09 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-08 19:47 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " James Bottomley
2005-12-09 3:57 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:00 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Ming Zhang
2005-12-09 15:29 ` [Scst-devel] Re: Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 15:48 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-10 15:32 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:07 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-14 15:06 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-14 19:55 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-15 18:53 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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