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From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: boutcher@cs.umn.edu
Cc: Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	johan@capvert.se, iscsitarget-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	mingz@ele.uri.edu, stgt <stgt-devel@lists.berlios.de>,
	Robert Whitehead <WRWHITEHEAD@novell.com>,
	scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] stgt a new	version of iscsi target?
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:30:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4399A307.5080803@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051208213514.GA23039@cs.umn.edu>

Dave C Boutcher wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 02:09:32PM -0600, Mike Christie wrote:
> 
>>James Bottomley wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 13:10 -0600, Mike Christie wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>cleanup. In the end some of the scsi people liked the idea of throwing 
>>>>the non-read/write command to userspace and to do this we just decided 
>>>>to start over but I have been cutting and pasting your code and cleaning 
>>>>it up as I add more stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>To be honest, I'd like to see all command processing at user level
>>>(including read/write ... for block devices, it shouldn't be that
>>>inefficient, since you're merely going to say remap an area from one
>>>device to another; as long as no data transformation ever occurs, the
>>>user never touches the data and it all remains in the kernel page
>>>cache).
>>
>>Ok, Tomo and I briefly talked about this when we saw Jeff's post about 
>>doing block layer drivers in userspace on lkml. I think we were somewhat 
>>prepared for this given some of your other replies.
>>
>>So Vlad and other target guys what do you think? Vlad are you going to 
>>continue to maintain scst as kernel only, or is there some place we can 
>>work together on this on - if your feelings are not hurt too much that 
>>is :) ?
> 
> 
> Oofff....Architecturally I agree with James...do all command processing
> in one place.  On the other hand, the processing involved with a read or
> write in the normal case (no aborts/resets/ordering/timeouts/etc) is
> almost zero.  Figure out the LBA and length and pass on the I/O.  The
> overhead of passing it up and down across the kernel boundary is likely
> to be orders of magnitude larger than the actual processing.  I would
> personally rather not fix this decision in concrete until we could do
> some actual measurements of a SCSI target under heavy load.

Totally agree.

Vlad



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-09 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <OF6932015B.01CF53D9-ONC12570D0.00462028@capvert.ins>
     [not found] ` <43972C2D.9060500@cs.wisc.edu>
2005-12-08 18:46   ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: stgt a new version of iscsi target? Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-08 18:54     ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:30       ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:31         ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-08 19:10     ` Mike Christie
2005-12-08 19:48       ` James Bottomley
2005-12-08 20:09         ` Mike Christie
2005-12-08 21:35           ` Dave C Boutcher
2005-12-08 21:56             ` Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:29               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:31                 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 15:31                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:19                     ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10  8:46                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-09 15:30             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
2005-12-09 15:29           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-21 23:53         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-22 10:38           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-26 23:53         ` Ang: " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-28 16:32           ` James Bottomley
2005-12-31  3:27             ` Mike Christie
2005-12-31 15:33               ` James Bottomley
2005-12-09 15:28       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:23         ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10  1:15           ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-10 15:30             ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:22               ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10  8:46         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-10 15:32           ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 15:54             ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-14 15:17               ` [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:09             ` Mike Christie
2005-12-14 15:09               ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-08 19:47     ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " James Bottomley
2005-12-09  3:57       ` Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:00         ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Ming Zhang
2005-12-09 15:29       ` [Scst-devel] Re: Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 15:48         ` James Bottomley
2005-12-10 15:32           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:07             ` Mike Christie
2005-12-14 15:06               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-14 19:55                 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-15 18:53                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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