From: Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>
To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
Cc: johan@capvert.se, iscsitarget-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
mingz@ele.uri.edu, stgt <stgt-devel@lists.berlios.de>,
Robert Whitehead <WRWHITEHEAD@novell.com>,
scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] stgt a new version of iscsi target?
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:10:05 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4398850D.8070102@cs.wisc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43987F75.2000301@vlnb.net>
Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> - Scst has some performance advantages over stgt, at least, on hardware
> targets, because it allows internal handling in SIRQ context as well as
> doesn't need user space program, so it eliminates additi
> switches (at least 3 per command for WRITEs and 2 per command for reads
> plus switches to user space daemon, probably, 2 per command). 5 context
> switches per command looks too much for me, especially considering how
> little work is done on each context. It means ~15000 CS/sec on regular
> 200Mb/sec link with 64K block size. Additionally, kernel only commands
> execution allows direct access to page cache, which is GREAT performance
> improvement, because in architecture with user space daemon the data
> should be copied several times between kernel and user space. Or, do I
> miss anything?
Userspace only occurs for READ/WRITEs. So for REPORT_LUNS, TUR, etc
where performance is not a factor.
Also is the page cache comment in reference to us using the page cache
for our reads and writes or I am not sure why you wrote that if you do
not do it right now.
>
> From other side, stgt has not too much advantages over scst.
Hey, we just started and have not had too much time.
> Actually, we would greatly appreciate if Mike or Christoph will tell us
> what is so wrong in scst on their opinion, so they started they own new
> project. (I'm not considering motivation like "I want to make my own in
> any case" seriously). Is scst too complicated? Do you think stgt will be
> simpler with all those features implemented?
>
Didn't we go over this? To get SCST ready for mainline we would have had
a large cleanup effort. I started this and sent you a patch to begin the
cleanup. In the end some of the scsi people liked the idea of throwing
the non-read/write command to userspace and to do this we just decided
to start over but I have been cutting and pasting your code and cleaning
it up as I add more stuff.
Simmer down :) If you had just gotton your code ready when christoph
asked a year ago we would never have had this problem and I would be
sending you patches to remove the scsi_request usage as we speak.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-08 19:10 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <43972C2D.9060500@cs.wisc.edu>
2005-12-08 18:46 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: stgt a new version of iscsi target? Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-08 18:54 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:30 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:31 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-08 19:10 ` Mike Christie [this message]
2005-12-08 19:48 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-08 20:09 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-08 21:35 ` Dave C Boutcher
2005-12-08 21:56 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:29 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:31 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 15:31 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:19 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 8:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-09 15:30 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 15:29 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-21 23:53 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-22 10:38 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-26 23:53 ` Ang: " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-28 16:32 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-31 3:27 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-31 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-09 15:28 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 22:23 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 1:15 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Mike Christie
2005-12-10 15:30 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:22 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-10 8:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-10 15:32 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 15:54 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-12-14 15:17 ` [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:09 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-14 15:09 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-08 19:47 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " James Bottomley
2005-12-09 3:57 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-09 15:00 ` Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] " Ming Zhang
2005-12-09 15:29 ` [Scst-devel] Re: Ang: Re: [Stgt-devel] Re: [Iscsitarget-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-09 15:48 ` James Bottomley
2005-12-10 15:32 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-10 18:07 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-14 15:06 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-12-14 19:55 ` Mike Christie
2005-12-15 18:53 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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