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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: scott.preece@motorola.com, matthew.a.locke@comcast.net,
	linux-pm@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:12:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060904091230.GL9991@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609032300.k83N0uL6016830@olwen.urbana.css.mot.com>

Hi!

> | Really, I think that the "states" which are entered only after tasks are
> | frozen should be considered as special and handled separately.
> ---
> 
> My point is that if the only kernel interface is set-op(), then the code
> in the kernel that implements set-op() is the thing that's going to
> drive the details of suspending the system, just as it does today. The
> abstraction at the kernel interface is about as simple as it can be and
> all the policy issues are moved outside the kernel.
> 
> My question is whether there are aspects of suspending, other than
> latency, that the policy manager would need to consider in deciding
> whether to suspend or not.
> 
> Look at it this way. In one scheme the policy manager code is:
> 
>    new_OP = select_transition(current_OP, decision_factors);
>    set_OP(new_OP);

No, it would be 

    new_OP = select_transition(current_OP, decision_factors);
if (new_OP == SUSPEND) {
	setup wakeup events ...
}
    set_OP(new_OP);


> in the other the policy manager code is:
> 
>    new_OP = select_transition(current_OP, decision_factors);
>    if (new_OP == SUSPEND)
>       suspend();
>    else
>       set_OP(new_OP);
...
> The one question that I see as interesting on that score is whether the
> policy decision to suspend is based on factors that are wholly different
> than the factors that drive frequency/voltage changes. If that were the
> case, then there would be no point to making the decisions in the same
> place.  Honestly, I'm not sure of the answer to that...

I'm pretty sure decision to suspend is other factors. Remember most
machines are non-functional during suspend.
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-04  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-03 23:00 So, what's the status on the recent patches here? Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04  9:12 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-05 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-05 16:03 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-05 20:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-06 10:56 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-04 15:43 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 23:05 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04  9:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:40 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04  9:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-05 16:45   ` Mark Gross
2006-09-06 10:59     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:31 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 22:41 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:12 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 21:34 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 21:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 21:21 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-01 14:49 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-31 15:14 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-31  2:41 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-31  0:52 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-25 22:11 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:21 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:57 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:13 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:22 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 20:34 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 21:27   ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-25 21:46     ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 22:03       ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-26  2:21         ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:05 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 20:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-24 14:52 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-24 12:16 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-24 12:29 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-23 19:20 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-24  8:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-20 13:36 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-16  1:27 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-16 15:25 ` Mark Gross
2006-08-14 20:07 Greg KH
2006-08-14 22:24 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-14 22:46   ` Dave Jones
2006-08-14 23:24     ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-14 23:48       ` Dave Jones
2006-08-15  1:00         ` Greg KH
2006-08-15  3:03           ` Dave Jones
2006-08-15 10:35           ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-15 19:04             ` Dave Jones
2006-08-16 12:58               ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-17 21:39                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18 10:02                   ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-18 15:29                     ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2006-08-18 17:54                       ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-18 21:05                         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2006-08-20 13:19                           ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-17  5:20               ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-17  7:20                 ` Paul Mundt
2006-08-17  9:18               ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-17 21:40                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18  5:42                   ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-23 12:28                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-23 15:26                       ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-24 12:58                       ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-25 19:55                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-25 23:26                           ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-26 10:18                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-26 13:30                               ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-26 13:46                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-28 16:40                                   ` Mark Gross
2006-08-28 17:39                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29  7:51                                       ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 22:13                                       ` Mark Gross
2006-08-30 22:27                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18 11:48                   ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-24  7:59                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-30 11:00                       ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-30 22:36                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-31 13:44                           ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-02 11:17                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-17 21:24             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-19  6:10           ` David Singleton
2006-08-22  2:13             ` Greg KH
2006-08-22  5:20               ` David Singleton
2006-08-23 19:05             ` Mark Gross
2006-08-24 12:39             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-19  6:19           ` David Singleton
     [not found]             ` <20060819184843.GB15644@redhat.com>
2006-08-20  3:20               ` David Singleton
2006-08-20  3:30                 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-23 18:50                   ` Mark Gross
2006-08-27  4:37                   ` David Singleton
2006-08-27 15:41                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 15:55                       ` David Singleton
2006-08-29 16:34                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 17:49                           ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30  6:20                             ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 13:26                               ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30 22:50                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-31  0:22                                   ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-31 12:04                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-02 18:05                               ` David Singleton
2006-09-02 19:30                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 16:25                                   ` David Singleton
2006-09-03 20:57                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 21:33                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09  0:39                                       ` David Singleton
2006-09-09  0:48                                         ` David Singleton
2006-09-09 16:13                                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09 12:17                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 15:11                                           ` David Singleton
2006-09-11 17:14                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 18:58                                             ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30  4:52                           ` David Singleton
2006-08-30  5:52                             ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 13:39                               ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30 22:43                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-27 19:48                     ` Greg KH
2006-08-28  0:07                       ` David Singleton
2006-08-27 20:54                     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-28 22:18                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 21:46                         ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-29  1:29                       ` David Singleton
2006-08-29 22:39                         ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-31 13:27                         ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-31 19:22                           ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-01  8:11                             ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-14 23:29   ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-08-14 23:48     ` Matthew Locke

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