From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: bert hubert <bert.hubert@netherlabs.nl>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: tcp congestion policy selection link order fragile
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:41:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060918164120.7d658e8b@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060917145150.GA7223@outpost.ds9a.nl>
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:51:50 +0200
bert hubert <bert.hubert@netherlabs.nl> wrote:
> The original message Stephen reacts to below apparently never made it to the
> list, it can be found here: http://ds9a.nl/tmp/module-policy.txt
>
> > Any body who builds in random stuff without thinking is being foolish.
> > But, if you can think of a better configuration method that isn't too
> > grotty, then go for it.
>
> The method I'm proposing is simple enough:
>
> 1) reno is always built-in
> 2) it is the default tcp congestion policy
No, Reno is unstable in high BDP
> 3) loading/compiling-in additional tcp congestion policies only make them
> available
> 4) userspace is free to select a non-default tcp congestion policy at will
>
> The implementation might be as simple as making the *first* registered
> congestion policy the default (instead of the last one) which would be reno,
> as it is in tcp_cong.o, which is probably always loaded first (as the other
> .o's need symbols that are in tcp_cong.o).
>
> Despite what you allege about my foolishness, I maintain that a kernel that
> enables a *random policy* from the ones you compiled in, is not a sane
> kernel.
>
> The default kernel should be as sane as possible, allowing the userspace
> people (ie, me) to mess things up to their heart's desire.
>
> Bert
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-18 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-16 22:19 2.6.18-rc[67] crashes in TCP ack handling bert hubert
2006-09-16 23:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-17 10:11 ` bert hubert
2006-09-17 11:53 ` Stephen Hemminger
[not found] ` <20060917122153.GA2932@outpost.ds9a.nl>
2006-09-17 13:11 ` tcp congestion policy selection link order fragile Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-17 14:51 ` bert hubert
2006-09-18 23:41 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-09-18 8:51 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 9:59 ` bert hubert
2006-09-18 14:06 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 15:40 ` bert hubert
2006-09-18 18:53 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 19:52 ` bert hubert
2006-09-19 4:41 ` [PATCH] tcp: set congestion default through Kconfig Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 5:08 ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-19 10:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19 12:35 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-09-19 16:10 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 17:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 15:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 19:29 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:30 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:33 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 20:41 ` [PATCH] tcp: set congestion default through Kconfig (v2) Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 21:20 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 21:32 ` [PATCH] tcp: simpler bic default Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 21:43 ` bert hubert
2006-09-19 22:44 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 23:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 23:04 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 23:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20 8:17 ` bert hubert
2006-09-20 20:28 ` [PATCH] tcp: default congestion control menu Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-25 3:12 ` David Miller
2006-09-20 20:32 ` [PATCH] tcp: make cubic the default Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-23 11:14 ` tested: " bert hubert
2006-09-23 20:00 ` David Miller
2006-09-25 3:13 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 21:38 ` [PATCH] tcp: set congestion default through Kconfig (v2) bert hubert
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