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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New filesystem for Linux
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 09:34:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061105083416.GA2246@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611050410210.29515@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 05:14:06AM +0100, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >- you have a _very_ confusing usage of upper-case. Not only are a lot of
> >  functions upper-case, some filenames are also upper-case. What would
> >  otherwise be more readable just ends up being hard to read because it's
> >  so odd and unexpected.
> >
> >  I'm sure there is some logic to it, but it escapes me.
> 
> I'm used to this. I usually make important functions with uppercase 
> letters and nonimportant temporary functions with lowercase letters.
>
> But I see that it contradicts general kernel coding style, so I can change 
> it.

We're more used to have uppercase for macros (or enums) and lowercase for
the rest. That way, when you read NULL, KERN_WARNING, PAGE_CACHE_SIZE,
INIT_LIST_HEAD..., you know that you're dealing with a macro, which is
very convenient.

> BTW do you find uppercase typedefs like
> typedef struct {
> 	...
> } SPADFNODE;
> confusing too?

Yes for the reason above. Also, we don't much use type definitions for
structures, because it's easier to understand "struct spadfnode *node"
in a function declaration than "SPADFNODE *node". Take a look at other
file systems. You'll see lots of "struct inode", "struct buffer_head".
Sometimes, you'll find some types suffixed with "_t", such as "handle_t"
or "spinlock_t". Generally, they are used for very commonly used data
(such as spinlocks), or opaque data which are passed between functions
without any interpretation. But it's more from observation than a rule.

> Uppercase filenames are there because the files are taken from another 
> (not yet released) project. But the kernel driver does not share any code 
> except definitions of disk structures, I saw how badly an attempt to share 
> kernel code affected XFS.

It's better to avoid uppercases in file names. I recently had to help
a user who could not build his kernel because of strange errors. I
finally found out that he was building from "entry.s" instead of "entry.S",
which suggested he copied the tree on a FAT. He confirmed having used a
vfat-formatted USB stick to copy his tree. Such errors are very annoying
to debug.

(...)
> I placed some benchmark on 
> http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/spadfs/benchmarks/

Not bad at all it seems !

Regards,
Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-05  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-02 21:52 New filesystem for Linux Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-02 22:32 ` Gabriel C
2006-11-03  1:22   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03  1:41     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-03 17:14       ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-03 17:09         ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 17:36           ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-03 18:14             ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 19:08             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-03 19:32               ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-03 19:00         ` Alan Cox
2006-11-03 19:14           ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-03  2:09     ` Gabriel C
2006-11-03  8:26       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-11-03 11:52         ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 11:59           ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 12:50             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-11-03 18:48               ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 21:51                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-11-03 11:47       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-02 22:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-03  1:28   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03  1:43     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-04 18:40   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-04 19:07     ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-04 19:39     ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-11-05  1:58     ` Alan Cox
2006-11-05  2:09       ` Patrick McFarland
2006-11-05 13:03     ` Maurizio Lombardi
2006-11-05 20:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-11-02 22:54 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-11-02 23:10   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-02 23:19   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-02 23:29     ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-11-03  1:34       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 20:30         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-04 18:46           ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-05 12:02             ` Theodore Tso
2006-11-03 22:00         ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-03 22:42           ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03  0:57     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-11-03 13:05     ` Ric Wheeler
2006-11-06  2:42     ` Phillip Susi
2006-11-04 19:59   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-11-04 21:01     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-11-05 16:37       ` Albert Cahalan
2006-11-04 23:38     ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-04 23:46       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-11-05 20:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-11-05 21:27           ` Rene Herman
2006-11-05 21:51             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-11-06  0:36               ` Rene Herman
2006-11-05 21:49       ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-05  1:57     ` Alan Cox
2006-11-05 11:14       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-11-05 11:27         ` Brad Campbell
2006-11-05 12:37           ` Alan Cox
2006-11-06  2:48           ` Phillip Susi
2006-11-05 16:22         ` Albert Cahalan
2006-11-05 17:18       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-05 18:14         ` Alan Cox
2006-11-05 18:18           ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-05 19:14             ` Alan Cox
2006-11-02 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-03 20:02   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-02 23:41 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-03  1:45   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 13:47     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-11-03 14:39       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-02 23:59 ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-03  1:19   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 10:19     ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-03 11:56       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 12:21         ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-03 13:31           ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 13:48             ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-03 14:19               ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-03 14:53                 ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-03 19:01                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-04 10:46                     ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-04 18:50                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-06 21:19                         ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-03 19:51             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-03 19:00     ` dean gaudet
2006-11-04 10:53       ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-04 11:13         ` dean gaudet
2006-11-04 20:07           ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-04 18:52       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-04 18:56         ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-11-04 19:18           ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-04 17:37 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-04 18:27   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-05 22:33     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-05  0:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-05  4:14   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-11-05  8:34     ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2006-11-05 11:31       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-11-05 14:48     ` Bruno Cesar Ribas
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2006-11-06 17:40 Al Boldi

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