From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:20:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061115112014.54de5b2c@freekitty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: s5hbqn99f2v.wl%tiwai@suse.de
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:31:04 +0100
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> At Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:21:17 -0800 (PST),
> David Miller wrote:
> >
> > From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
> > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:10:42 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > > Yours was still an example of "nice". And it had absolutely nothing
> > > to do with the _PROBLEM_.
> >
> > Understood.
> >
> > BTW, some drivers have taken the approch to add MSI self-tests
> > inside of the driver to ensure correct option of MSI on a given
> > machine. There's a lot of resistence to that, the reasons for
> > which I grok fully, but I'm not sure other suggestions such as
> > black lists are any better.
>
> The snd-hda-intel driver has a test of MSI, but it seems not working
> on every machine. It caused non-cared interrupts and the kernel
> disabled that irq.
>
> > Given current experience maybe white-lists are in fact the way
> > to go.
>
> Could it be whitelisted in the PCI driver side? I don't think it's
> good to have a huge white/blacklist in each device driver.
>
A whitelist is an awkward solution, the problem is the number of
chipsets available with MSI will continue to grow. And the assumption
is that after Microsoft OS supports MSI, that newer chipsets will work.
So by having a whitelist, you force a growing whitelist (in the kernel)
to know about all the possible chipsets. Since non-whitelisted systems
will end up using INTX and working fine, most users will never try MSI
and the whitelist will end up stale.
A better solution is to have more robust IRQ management that can
deal with misrouted IRQ's and try and recover correctly. How hard would
it be to:
* remember original IRQ before MSI was enabled
* make sure all MSI irq's are not flagged SHARED
* in case of bogus IRQ walk the list and try and correct
the problem by reverting to INTX mode.
* add interface?
pci_request_irq_msi(pdev, regular_irq_handler, msi_irq_handler, flags, name, context)
All this should be done by the MSI layer, not the device drivers.
--
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
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Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-11-15 1:34 ` [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 1:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 2:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 2:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 3:00 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 3:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 3:21 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 4:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 4:15 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 4:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 4:28 ` David Miller
2006-11-16 2:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16 2:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16 3:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 4:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16 6:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 14:41 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-11-16 15:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 17:24 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 19:09 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 19:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:49 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 22:31 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-16 2:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:30 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 4:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 18:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:45 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-16 2:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 13:34 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-11-15 18:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:59 ` Mws
2006-11-15 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 20:53 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-16 6:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2006-11-16 23:25 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-15 21:10 ` Mws
2006-11-16 11:10 ` Mws
2006-11-15 4:14 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 4:49 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 4:57 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 5:11 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 22:43 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 18:35 ` [PATCH] ACPI: use MSI_NOT_SUPPORTED bit Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 18:44 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 19:41 ` [PATCH v2] " Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 19:58 ` [PATCH v3] " Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 20:19 ` [PATCH] " Len Brown
2006-11-16 2:22 ` [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 10:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-15 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 16:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 18:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 19:34 ` Stephen Clark
2006-11-15 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 20:01 ` Stephen Clark
2006-11-15 18:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-15 19:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 10:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-16 23:01 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-17 10:55 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-17 16:17 ` Yinghai Lu
2006-11-17 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:20 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-11-15 22:35 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 4:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:07 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 7:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 10:06 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-11-15 4:23 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 7:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 4:24 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 2:58 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 3:10 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-15 3:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 3:53 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-15 11:40 ` Alan
2006-11-16 4:06 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-16 0:17 Lu, Yinghai
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-16 3:50 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-16 23:36 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-16 4:24 linux
2006-11-16 10:53 ` Alan
2006-11-16 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 4:25 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-16 18:00 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-16 23:54 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-17 0:49 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-17 17:42 Lu, Yinghai
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