From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] WorkStruct: Implement generic UP cmpxchg() where an arch doesn't support it
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:18:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061208171816.GG31068@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612080903370.15959@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 09:06:00AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, David Howells wrote:
>
> > > It is the most universal atomic instruction that I know of.
> >
> > I think TAS-type things and XCHG-type things are more common.
>
> Huh? The most popular architectures are i386 x86_64 sparc ia64 etc which
> all have one or the other form of cmpxchg (some issues with early sparc
> and i386).
According to the latest figures, 621 million ARM processors were
shipped in Q3, which equates to about 78 processors per second.
(taken from http://www.arm.com/news/15300.html).
I'd like to know the figures for these other so-called "popular
architectures".
But in any case that's an utterly irrelevant point to the argument
at hand.
> > In fact I think more things have LL/SC than have CMPXCHG.
>
> LL/SC can be easily used to come up with a cmpxchg equivalent.
As proven previously the reverse is also true. And as shown previously
the cheaper out of the two for all platforms is the LL/SC based
implementation, where the architecture specific implementation can
be _either_ LL/SC based or cmpxchg based depending on what is
supported in their hardware.
I'm going to keep saying this until people get it.
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of:
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-08 17:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-06 16:43 [PATCH] WorkStruct: Implement generic UP cmpxchg() where an arch doesn't support it David Howells
2006-12-06 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06 19:00 ` Russell King
2006-12-06 19:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 19:58 ` Russell King
2006-12-06 21:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 21:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06 22:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 22:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-07 0:37 ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-07 0:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 1:05 ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-07 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 1:24 ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-07 1:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 1:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-07 2:09 ` Douglas McNaught
2006-12-07 1:52 ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-07 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-06 22:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 9:31 ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-07 13:20 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2006-12-07 15:03 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 1:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-08 8:56 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 16:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08 16:31 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 16:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08 16:47 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 16:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08 16:58 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 16:56 ` David Howells
2006-12-08 17:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08 17:18 ` Russell King [this message]
2006-12-08 17:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 19:31 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 19:43 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 19:04 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 19:59 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 20:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-11 11:04 ` David Howells
2006-12-08 22:33 ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-07 15:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 16:51 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-12-07 0:46 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-12-06 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 19:08 ` Al Viro
2006-12-06 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 19:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 19:43 ` David Howells
2006-12-06 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 1:09 ` David Miller
2006-12-06 19:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 19:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06 19:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 19:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06 19:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 20:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06 20:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 19:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-06 19:45 ` David Howells
2006-12-06 20:00 ` Russell King
2006-12-07 15:06 ` Russell King
2006-12-08 15:32 ` Russell King
2006-12-06 19:12 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2006-12-06 19:47 ` David Howells
2006-12-06 20:09 ` Lennert Buytenhek
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