From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: kvm & dyntick
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 07:20:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070112062006.GA32714@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45A66106.5030608@qumranet.com>
* Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com> wrote:
> It occurs to me that kvm could benefit greatly from dyntick:
>
> dyntick-enabled host:
> - generate virtual interrupts at whatever HZ the guest programs its
> timers, be it 100, 250, 1000 or whatever
> - avoid expensive vmexits due to useless timer interrupts
>
> dyntick-enabled guest:
> - reduce the load on the host when the guest is idling
> (currently an idle guest consumes a few percent cpu)
yeah. KVM under -rt already works with dynticks enabled on both the host
and the guest. (but it's more optimal to use a dedicated hypercall to
set the next guest-interrupt)
> What are the current plans wrt dyntick? Is it planned for 2.6.21?
yeah, we hope to have it in v2.6.21.
note that s390 (and more recently Xen too) uses a next_timer_interrupt()
based method to stop the guest tick - which works in terms of reducing
guest load, but it doesnt stop the host-side interrupt. The highest
quality approach is to have dynticks on both the host and the guest, and
this also gives high-resolution timers and a modernized
time/timer-events subsystem for both the host and the guest.
Ingo
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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: kvm & dyntick
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 07:20:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070112062006.GA32714@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45A66106.5030608-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
* Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> It occurs to me that kvm could benefit greatly from dyntick:
>
> dyntick-enabled host:
> - generate virtual interrupts at whatever HZ the guest programs its
> timers, be it 100, 250, 1000 or whatever
> - avoid expensive vmexits due to useless timer interrupts
>
> dyntick-enabled guest:
> - reduce the load on the host when the guest is idling
> (currently an idle guest consumes a few percent cpu)
yeah. KVM under -rt already works with dynticks enabled on both the host
and the guest. (but it's more optimal to use a dedicated hypercall to
set the next guest-interrupt)
> What are the current plans wrt dyntick? Is it planned for 2.6.21?
yeah, we hope to have it in v2.6.21.
note that s390 (and more recently Xen too) uses a next_timer_interrupt()
based method to stop the guest tick - which works in terms of reducing
guest load, but it doesnt stop the host-side interrupt. The highest
quality approach is to have dynticks on both the host and the guest, and
this also gives high-resolution timers and a modernized
time/timer-events subsystem for both the host and the guest.
Ingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-12 6:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-11 16:08 kvm & dyntick Avi Kivity
2007-01-11 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-12 5:34 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-12 5:34 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-12 6:20 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-01-12 6:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 10:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 10:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 17:04 ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-12 17:04 ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-14 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 23:25 ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-01-12 23:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-14 8:51 ` Ingo Molnar
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