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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: kvm & dyntick
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:04:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45A7BF9F.5090508@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070112101931.GA11635@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
>   
>>> dyntick-enabled guest:
>>> - reduce the load on the host when the guest is idling
>>>   (currently an idle guest consumes a few percent cpu)
>>>       
>> yeah. KVM under -rt already works with dynticks enabled on both the 
>> host and the guest. (but it's more optimal to use a dedicated 
>> hypercall to set the next guest-interrupt)
>>     
>
> using the dynticks code from the -rt kernel makes the overhead of an 
> idle guest go down by a factor of 10-15:
>
>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>  2556 mingo     15   0  598m 159m 157m R  1.5  8.0   0:26.20 qemu
>
>   

As usual, great news.

> ( for this to work on my system i have added a 'hyper' clocksource 
>   hypercall API for KVM guests to use - this is needed instead of the 
>   running-to-slowly TSC. )
>   

What's the problem with the TSC?  The only issue I'm aware of is that 
the tsc might go backwards if the vcpu is migrated to another host cpu 
(easily fixed).

A pv clocksource makes sense in any case.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: kvm & dyntick
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:04:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45A7BF9F.5090508@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070112101931.GA11635-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>   
>>> dyntick-enabled guest:
>>> - reduce the load on the host when the guest is idling
>>>   (currently an idle guest consumes a few percent cpu)
>>>       
>> yeah. KVM under -rt already works with dynticks enabled on both the 
>> host and the guest. (but it's more optimal to use a dedicated 
>> hypercall to set the next guest-interrupt)
>>     
>
> using the dynticks code from the -rt kernel makes the overhead of an 
> idle guest go down by a factor of 10-15:
>
>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>  2556 mingo     15   0  598m 159m 157m R  1.5  8.0   0:26.20 qemu
>
>   

As usual, great news.

> ( for this to work on my system i have added a 'hyper' clocksource 
>   hypercall API for KVM guests to use - this is needed instead of the 
>   running-to-slowly TSC. )
>   

What's the problem with the TSC?  The only issue I'm aware of is that 
the tsc might go backwards if the vcpu is migrated to another host cpu 
(easily fixed).

A pv clocksource makes sense in any case.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-12 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-11 16:08 kvm & dyntick Avi Kivity
2007-01-11 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-12  5:34 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-12  5:34   ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-12  6:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12  6:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 10:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 10:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 17:04     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-01-12 17:04       ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-14  8:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-12 23:25     ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-01-12 23:39       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-14  8:51       ` Ingo Molnar

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