From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org,
lenb@kernel.org, konstantin.a.karasyov@intel.com
Subject: Re: Conversion of ACPI fan+thermal to hwmon sysfs
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:43:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070302114326.GA1212@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070302121304.9db20131.khali@linux-fr.org>
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:13:04PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> As I don't know what these "cooling mode policies" are, I can't really
> tell. Trip points in hwmon let the user define the desired fan speed
> depending on a temperature measurement, and that's about it. You can't
> associate other actions at the moment, essentially because hardware
> monitoring chips themselves can't do anything else. If it would be
> convenient for the ACPI case to add something else, we can discuss
> additional interface files.
ACPI cooling mode policies may be related to fans, but can also be
associated with passive cooling of the CPU by throttling or voltage
scaling. Some machines keep the fan under BIOS control, so the only
information exposed via the thermal module will be something like:
critical (S5): 95 C
passive: 91 C: tc1=5 tc2=4 tsp=600 devices=0xc16dd310
indicating that the CPU should be throttled at 91C, and the system
forcibly shut down at 95C.
> My original idea was to simply add a read-only hwmon-like interface to
> the acpi fan and thermal modules. I didn't plan to replace the current
> interfaces offered by these modules, at least not directly. There must
> be many user-space tools and scripts relying on these at the moment, so
> we need a transition period anyway.
That doesn't sound like a bad plan.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: mjg59@srcf.ucam.org (Matthew Garrett)
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org,
lenb@kernel.org, konstantin.a.karasyov@intel.com
Subject: [lm-sensors] Conversion of ACPI fan+thermal to hwmon sysfs
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:43:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070302114326.GA1212@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070302121304.9db20131.khali@linux-fr.org>
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:13:04PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> As I don't know what these "cooling mode policies" are, I can't really
> tell. Trip points in hwmon let the user define the desired fan speed
> depending on a temperature measurement, and that's about it. You can't
> associate other actions at the moment, essentially because hardware
> monitoring chips themselves can't do anything else. If it would be
> convenient for the ACPI case to add something else, we can discuss
> additional interface files.
ACPI cooling mode policies may be related to fans, but can also be
associated with passive cooling of the CPU by throttling or voltage
scaling. Some machines keep the fan under BIOS control, so the only
information exposed via the thermal module will be something like:
critical (S5): 95 C
passive: 91 C: tc1=5 tc2=4 tsp`0 devices=0xc16dd310
indicating that the CPU should be throttled at 91C, and the system
forcibly shut down at 95C.
> My original idea was to simply add a read-only hwmon-like interface to
> the acpi fan and thermal modules. I didn't plan to replace the current
> interfaces offered by these modules, at least not directly. There must
> be many user-space tools and scripts relying on these at the moment, so
> we need a transition period anyway.
That doesn't sound like a bad plan.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-02 11:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-24 18:20 RFC: conversion of ibm-acpi to hwmon sysfs Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-24 18:20 ` [lm-sensors] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-26 16:27 ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-26 16:27 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20070226172716.b2e956b7.khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2007-02-26 18:06 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-26 18:06 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-27 9:01 ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-27 9:01 ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-27 15:41 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-27 15:41 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-28 14:38 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-28 14:38 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-01 7:10 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-01 7:10 ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-28 9:31 ` Zhang Rui
2007-02-28 9:31 ` Zhang Rui
2007-02-28 14:34 ` Conversion of ACPI fan+thermal " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-02-28 14:34 ` [lm-sensors] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-01 9:37 ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-02 1:12 ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-02 1:12 ` [lm-sensors] " Zhang Rui
2007-03-02 11:13 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 11:13 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 11:43 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2007-03-02 11:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-08 9:28 ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-08 9:28 ` [lm-sensors] " Zhang Rui
2007-03-08 11:13 ` Hans de Goede
2007-03-08 11:13 ` Hans de Goede
2007-03-08 13:13 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-08 13:13 ` [lm-sensors] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-09 8:53 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-09 8:53 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-03-01 7:06 ` [lm-sensors] RFC: conversion of ibm-acpi " Jean Delvare
2007-03-01 7:06 ` Jean Delvare
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