From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1 of 2] block_page_mkwrite() Implementation V2
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:10:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070516131025.GU26766@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464B014B.20109@yahoo.com.au>
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:04:11PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Chris Mason wrote:
> >On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 08:09:19PM +0800, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 11:19 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> >>
> >>>The start and end points passed to block_prepare_write() delimit the
> >>>region of
> >>>the page that is going to be modified. This means that prepare_write()
> >>>doesn't need to fill it in if the page is not up to date.
> >>
> >>Really? Is it _really_ going to be modified? Even if the pointer
> >>userspace gave to write() is bogus, and is going to fault half-way
> >>through the copy_from_user()?
> >
> >
> >This is why there are so many variations on copy_from_user that zero on
> >faults. One way or another, the prepare_write/commit_write pair are
> >responsible for filling it in.
>
> I'll add to David's question about David's comment on David's patch, yes
> it will be modified but in that case it would be zero-filled as Chris
> says. However I believe this is incorrect behaviour.
>
> It is possible to easily fix that so it would only happen via a tiny race
> window (where the source memory gets unmapped at just the right time)
> however nobody seemed to interested (just by checking the return value of
> fault_in_pages_readable).
>
> The buffered write patches I'm working on fix that (among other things) of
> course. But they do away with prepare_write and introduce new aops, and
> they indeed must not expect the full range to have been written to.
I was also wrong to say prepare_write and commit_write are
responsible, they work together with their callers to make the right
things happen. Oh well, so much for trying to give a short answer for a
chunk of code full of corner cases ;)
-chris
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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1 of 2] block_page_mkwrite() Implementation V2
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:10:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070516131025.GU26766@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464B014B.20109@yahoo.com.au>
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:04:11PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Chris Mason wrote:
> >On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 08:09:19PM +0800, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 11:19 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> >>
> >>>The start and end points passed to block_prepare_write() delimit the
> >>>region of
> >>>the page that is going to be modified. This means that prepare_write()
> >>>doesn't need to fill it in if the page is not up to date.
> >>
> >>Really? Is it _really_ going to be modified? Even if the pointer
> >>userspace gave to write() is bogus, and is going to fault half-way
> >>through the copy_from_user()?
> >
> >
> >This is why there are so many variations on copy_from_user that zero on
> >faults. One way or another, the prepare_write/commit_write pair are
> >responsible for filling it in.
>
> I'll add to David's question about David's comment on David's patch, yes
> it will be modified but in that case it would be zero-filled as Chris
> says. However I believe this is incorrect behaviour.
>
> It is possible to easily fix that so it would only happen via a tiny race
> window (where the source memory gets unmapped at just the right time)
> however nobody seemed to interested (just by checking the return value of
> fault_in_pages_readable).
>
> The buffered write patches I'm working on fix that (among other things) of
> course. But they do away with prepare_write and introduce new aops, and
> they indeed must not expect the full range to have been written to.
I was also wrong to say prepare_write and commit_write are
responsible, they work together with their callers to make the right
things happen. Oh well, so much for trying to give a short answer for a
chunk of code full of corner cases ;)
-chris
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-18 23:30 [PATCH 1 of 2] block_page_mkwrite() Implementation V2 David Chinner
2007-03-18 23:30 ` David Chinner
2007-03-19 6:37 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 6:37 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 8:12 ` David Chinner
2007-03-19 8:12 ` David Chinner
2007-03-19 9:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 9:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 10:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 10:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 9:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-19 9:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-19 10:11 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 10:11 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-19 12:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-19 12:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-20 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-20 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 10:19 ` David Howells
2007-05-16 10:19 ` David Howells
2007-05-16 11:59 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 11:59 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 13:20 ` David Howells
2007-05-16 13:20 ` David Howells
2007-05-16 13:41 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 13:41 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 12:09 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 12:09 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 12:53 ` Chris Mason
2007-05-16 12:53 ` Chris Mason
2007-05-16 13:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 13:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 13:10 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2007-05-16 13:10 ` Chris Mason
2007-05-16 13:25 ` David Howells
2007-05-16 13:25 ` David Howells
2007-05-16 23:28 ` David Chinner
2007-05-16 23:28 ` David Chinner
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