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From: "Zoltán HUBERT" <zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:57:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706220057.33984.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a8748490706211529yca0588dgd1f7e0b86f7e4a62@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 22 June 2007 00:29, Jesper Juhl wrote:

> > You might think it's easy for me to simply "use" Linux
> > and complain while you're doing the hard stuff. As it
> > happens, the current development/stable model makes our
> > life as "users" more and more difficult.
>
> In what way?

Well, I'm using SuSE Pro 9.3 (excellent choice by the way), 
coming with kernel 2.6.10-SuSE, on a ATI laptop, and the 
drivers privided wouldn't compile (suspend & freinds). The 
SATA disks were only supported from 2.6.15 (which just came 
out), so I had to edit the "source code" of a closed source 
driver to make it all work well. If that's "easy" for you I 
doubt it is for 99.999% of earth's population. "World 
domination" is far away.

Also, the 7 National Instruments cards I'm using for a 
deformable mirror in Adaptive Optics in an industrial PC 
are "certified" for SuSE 9.3 only. Which, this week, got 
discontinued. So what now ?

> Most users should be using distribution kernels anyway,

???? should ???? who do you think "users" are ????

> not vanilla kernel.org kernels. 

Who said I was using vanilla kernels ?

> > "development" branches. And it would certainly help
> > vendors of closed-source drivers.

> Their choice, their problem. 

no, it's MY problem.

> I don't think you'll find very 
> many people on this list who gives a damn about the
> troubles of closed source driver developers.

and what about their users ?


z



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-21 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-21 21:49 Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-21 21:54 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 22:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-21 22:21   ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-22 20:54     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-21 22:29 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-21 22:34   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 23:01     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-21 23:08       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 23:36         ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-21 23:45         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 21:15           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-29 13:41             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-29 22:33               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-22 15:00     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-22 17:11       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-22 22:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 20:54         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 16:38           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-25 23:20             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 23:23               ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 22:57   ` Zoltán HUBERT [this message]
2007-06-21 23:07     ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-21 23:23     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-22  8:34     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-06-26 11:59     ` Helge Hafting
2007-06-26 14:37       ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-26 15:04         ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-26 19:03         ` Roland Kuhn
2007-06-27  9:18           ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-27  9:54             ` Alan McKinnon
2007-06-27  9:55             ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 14:44             ` Helge Hafting
2007-06-27 16:13             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-29 16:37             ` Gerhard Mack
2007-06-21 23:30   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-21 23:32     ` david
2007-06-22  8:41       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-21 22:52 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-21 22:59   ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-21 22:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-22  3:51 ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-22  9:19 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-22  9:45   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-06-23  7:25 ` Chris Snook
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-27 13:53 Al Boldi
2007-06-27 15:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-27 16:08   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-27 16:26     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-27 16:26     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-27 22:32   ` Al Boldi
2007-06-27 17:11 ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 22:32   ` Al Boldi
2007-06-27 23:12     ` Al Viro
2007-06-28 15:37       ` Al Boldi
     [not found] <fa.ZV8hYZHQHqzfx1dgOFeEVFRogSg@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-27 14:15 ` Bill Waddington
2007-06-28 11:15   ` Helge Hafting
2007-06-28 15:28     ` William D Waddington
2007-06-28 16:30       ` Alan Cox
2007-06-28 16:39         ` William D Waddington
2007-06-29  0:00           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-28 21:39         ` Al Viro
2007-06-28 22:00         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:48           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-28 22:45             ` Rene Herman
     [not found] <8AH0j-3Qc-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8AH0j-3Qc-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8B0vZ-r6-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8B46G-69z-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8B52G-7C9-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <8BalK-7Ic-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <8BaYr-8tJ-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-06-29 21:05             ` Bodo Eggert
2007-06-29 21:27               ` Rene Herman
2007-06-30  2:11                 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-06-30 10:50                   ` Rene Herman

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