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From: Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
Cc: 7eggert@gmx.de, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	William D Waddington <william.waddington@beezmo.com>,
	Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:11:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706292211.43170.dhazelton@enter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46857946.20201@gmail.com>

On Friday 29 June 2007 17:27:34 Rene Herman wrote:
> On 06/29/2007 11:05 PM, Bodo Eggert wrote:
> > Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> >> Indeed if its public domain you may have almost no rights at all
> >> depending what you were given. Once you get the source code you can do
> >> stuff but I don't have to give you that. If its public domain I can find
> >> security holes in it, and refuse to provide the fixed module in source
> >> form even.
> >
> > The GPL forces nobody to not release his module under PD, therefore it
> > can't protect you from that. Even minor changes - like adjusting the
> > module to use to the current API - won't change that, at least in Germany
> > they'd have to qualify as a work of their own in order to create a
> > GPL-only derived work, because anything not qualifying for that could
> > also be integrated into the PD version, and both would remain identical.
>
> What I focussed on when asking were only my wishes as an author but Alan
> (if I understood him right ofcourse) pointed out that _the kernel_ does not
> want integrated code to be in the public domain regardless of my wishes.
>
> Arguably (no doubt, sigh...) someone could distribute the kernel in binary
> form but refuse to provide source for the bits marked as being in the
> public domain alongside it -- yes, can of worms when compared to GPL
> demands, but I believe I can see why one shouldn't even go near there.

Actually, they couldn't. Second PD code became included in the kernel it would 
be covered by the GPL. If it can be shown that the kernel binary was the 
product of merging PD code in, then there is no way top refuse access to the 
PD code.

DRH

> Rene.
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-30  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]           ` <8BaYr-8tJ-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-06-29 21:05             ` Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 Bodo Eggert
2007-06-29 21:27               ` Rene Herman
2007-06-30  2:11                 ` Daniel Hazelton [this message]
2007-06-30 10:50                   ` Rene Herman
     [not found] <fa.ZV8hYZHQHqzfx1dgOFeEVFRogSg@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-27 14:15 ` Bill Waddington
2007-06-28 11:15   ` Helge Hafting
2007-06-28 15:28     ` William D Waddington
2007-06-28 16:30       ` Alan Cox
2007-06-28 16:39         ` William D Waddington
2007-06-29  0:00           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-28 21:39         ` Al Viro
2007-06-28 22:00         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:48           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-28 22:45             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-27 13:53 Al Boldi
2007-06-27 15:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-27 16:08   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-27 16:26     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-27 16:26     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-27 22:32   ` Al Boldi
2007-06-27 17:11 ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 22:32   ` Al Boldi
2007-06-27 23:12     ` Al Viro
2007-06-28 15:37       ` Al Boldi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-21 21:49 Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-21 21:54 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 22:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-21 22:21   ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-22 20:54     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-21 22:29 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-21 22:34   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 23:01     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-21 23:08       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 23:36         ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-21 23:45         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 21:15           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-29 13:41             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-29 22:33               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-22 15:00     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-22 17:11       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-22 22:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 20:54         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 16:38           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-25 23:20             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 23:23               ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 22:57   ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-21 23:07     ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-21 23:23     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-22  8:34     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-06-26 11:59     ` Helge Hafting
2007-06-26 14:37       ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-26 15:04         ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-26 19:03         ` Roland Kuhn
2007-06-27  9:18           ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-27  9:54             ` Alan McKinnon
2007-06-27  9:55             ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 14:44             ` Helge Hafting
2007-06-27 16:13             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-29 16:37             ` Gerhard Mack
2007-06-21 23:30   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-21 23:32     ` david
2007-06-22  8:41       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-21 22:52 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-21 22:59   ` Zoltán HUBERT
2007-06-21 22:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-22  3:51 ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-22  9:19 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-22  9:45   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-06-23  7:25 ` Chris Snook

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