From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] fsblock
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:34:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070626123449.GM14224@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070626092309.GF31489@sgi.com>
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 07:23:09PM +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 01:55:11PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
[ ... fsblocks vs extent range mapping ]
> iomaps can double as range locks simply because iomaps are
> expressions of ranges within the file. Seeing as you can only
> access a given range exclusively to modify it, inserting an empty
> mapping into the tree as a range lock gives an effective method of
> allowing safe parallel reads, writes and allocation into the file.
>
> The fsblocks and the vm page cache interface cannot be used to
> facilitate this because a radix tree is the wrong type of tree to
> store this information in. A sparse, range based tree (e.g. btree)
> is the right way to do this and it matches very well with
> a range based API.
I'm really not against the extent based page cache idea, but I kind of
assumed it would be too big a change for this kind of generic setup. At
any rate, if we'd like to do it, it may be best to ditch the idea of
"attach mapping information to a page", and switch to "lookup mapping
information and range locking for a page".
A btree could be used to hold the range mapping and locking, but it
could just as easily be a radix tree where you do a gang lookup for the
end of the range (the same way my placeholder patch did). It'll still
find intersecting range locks but is much faster for random
insertion/deletion than the btrees.
-chris
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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] fsblock
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:34:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070626123449.GM14224@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070626092309.GF31489@sgi.com>
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 07:23:09PM +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 01:55:11PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
[ ... fsblocks vs extent range mapping ]
> iomaps can double as range locks simply because iomaps are
> expressions of ranges within the file. Seeing as you can only
> access a given range exclusively to modify it, inserting an empty
> mapping into the tree as a range lock gives an effective method of
> allowing safe parallel reads, writes and allocation into the file.
>
> The fsblocks and the vm page cache interface cannot be used to
> facilitate this because a radix tree is the wrong type of tree to
> store this information in. A sparse, range based tree (e.g. btree)
> is the right way to do this and it matches very well with
> a range based API.
I'm really not against the extent based page cache idea, but I kind of
assumed it would be too big a change for this kind of generic setup. At
any rate, if we'd like to do it, it may be best to ditch the idea of
"attach mapping information to a page", and switch to "lookup mapping
information and range locking for a page".
A btree could be used to hold the range mapping and locking, but it
could just as easily be a radix tree where you do a gang lookup for the
end of the range (the same way my placeholder patch did). It'll still
find intersecting range locks but is much faster for random
insertion/deletion than the btrees.
-chris
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-24 1:45 [RFC] fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:46 ` [patch 1/3] add the fsblock layer Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:46 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 15:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-24 15:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-24 20:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-24 20:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25 8:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-25 8:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-25 7:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 7:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 23:01 ` Neil Brown
2007-06-24 23:01 ` Neil Brown
2007-06-25 7:41 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 7:41 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 12:29 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-25 12:29 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-26 2:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 2:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 2:48 ` Neil Brown
2007-06-26 2:48 ` Neil Brown
2007-06-26 3:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 3:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 12:26 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-26 12:26 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-30 10:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-25 13:19 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-25 13:19 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-26 2:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 2:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:46 ` [patch 2/3] block_dev: convert to fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:46 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:47 ` [patch 3/3] minix: " Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:53 ` [RFC] fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 1:53 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 3:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-24 3:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-24 3:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 3:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 13:51 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-24 13:51 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-25 6:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 6:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 12:25 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-25 12:25 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-30 10:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 11:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 11:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 11:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 11:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-24 4:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-24 4:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-24 14:16 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-24 14:16 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-25 7:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 7:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 3:06 ` David Chinner
2007-06-26 3:06 ` David Chinner
2007-06-26 3:55 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 3:55 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 9:23 ` David Chinner
2007-06-26 9:23 ` David Chinner
2007-06-26 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 12:39 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-27 12:39 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-26 12:34 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2007-06-26 12:34 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-27 5:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 5:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 6:05 ` David Chinner
2007-06-27 6:05 ` David Chinner
2007-06-27 11:50 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-27 11:50 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-27 15:18 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-06-27 15:18 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-06-27 22:35 ` David Chinner
2007-06-27 22:35 ` David Chinner
2007-06-28 2:44 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-28 2:44 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-28 12:20 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-28 12:20 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-29 2:08 ` David Chinner
2007-06-29 2:08 ` David Chinner
2007-06-29 2:33 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-29 2:33 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-30 11:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 11:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-09 17:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 17:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 0:54 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 0:54 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 0:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 0:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 1:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 1:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 1:37 ` Dave McCracken
2007-07-10 1:37 ` Dave McCracken
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