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From: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Keshavamurthy, Anil S" <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de,
	suresh.b.siddha@intel.com, arjan@linux.intel.com,
	ashok.raj@intel.com, davem@davemloft.net, clameter@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [Intel IOMMU 00/10] Intel IOMMU support, take #2
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:09:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070626150940.GC8274@rhun.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73645a675q.fsf@bingen.suse.de>

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 05:56:49PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:

> > > - The IOMMU can merge sg lists into a single virtual block. This could
> > > potentially speed up SG IO when the device is slow walking SG
> > > lists.  [I long ago benchmarked 5% on some block benchmark with
> > > an old MPT Fusion; but it probably depends a lot on the HBA]
> > 
> > But most devices are SG-capable.
> 
> Your point being?

That the fact that an IOMMU can do SG for non-SG-capble cards is not
interesting from a "reason for inclusion" POV.

> > How much? we have numbers (to be presented at OLS later this week)
> > that show that on bare-metal an IOMMU can cost as much as 15%-30%
> > more CPU utilization for an IO intensive workload (netperf). It
> > will be interesting to see comparable numbers for VT-d.
> 
> That is something that needs more work.

Yup. I'm working on it (mostly in the context of Calgary) but also
looking at improvements to the DMA-API interface and usage.

> We should probably have a switch to use the IOMMU only for specific
> devices (e.g. for the KVM case) r only when remapping is
> needed.

Calgary already does this internally (via calgary=disable=<BUSNUM>)
but that's pretty ugly. It would be better to do it in a generic
fashion when deciding which dma_ops to call (i.e., a dma_ops per bus
or device).

> Also the user interface for X server case needs more work.

Is anyone working on it?

Cheers,
Muli

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-26 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-19 21:37 [Intel IOMMU 00/10] Intel IOMMU support, take #2 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 01/10] DMAR detection and parsing logic Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-07-04  9:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-04 10:04     ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-04 10:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 02/10] PCI generic helper function Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26  5:49   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-26 14:44     ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 03/10] clflush_cache_range now takes size param Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 04/10] IOVA allocation and management routines Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26  6:07   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-26 16:16     ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 05/10] Intel IOMMU driver Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 23:32   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-19 23:50     ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 23:56       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-26  6:32     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-26 16:29       ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26  6:25   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-26 16:33     ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26  6:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 06/10] Avoid memory allocation failures in dma map api calls Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 23:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-19 23:27     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 23:34       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-20  0:02         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-20  8:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 13:03     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-20 17:30       ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-06-20 18:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 19:14           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-20 20:08             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 23:03               ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-21  6:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21  6:11                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-21  6:29                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21  6:37                       ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-21  7:13                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21 19:51                           ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-21  6:30                     ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26  5:34     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 07/10] Intel iommu cmdline option - forcedac Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 08/10] DMAR fault handling support Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 09/10] Iommu Gfx workaround Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-19 21:37 ` [Intel IOMMU 10/10] Iommu floppy workaround Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26  6:42   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-26 10:37     ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-26 19:25       ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26 16:26     ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26  6:45 ` [Intel IOMMU 00/10] Intel IOMMU support, take #2 Andrew Morton
2007-06-26  7:12   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-26 11:13     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-06-26 15:03       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-26 15:11         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-06-26 15:48           ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2007-06-26 16:00             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-06-26 15:56       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-26 15:09         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda [this message]
2007-06-26 15:36           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-26 15:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-26 15:33           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-26 16:25             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-26 17:31               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-26 20:10                 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-26 22:35                   ` Andi Kleen

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