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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	david@lang.hm, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:29:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707282029.03563.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707280932470.3442@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Saturday, 28 July 2007 18:55, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > And it's the *top*level* code that selects HOTPLUG_CPU. Through 
> > SUSPEND_SMP (which will select HOTPLUG_CPU) and SOFTWARE_SUSPEND.
> 
> In other words, the problem seems to be that 
> 
> 	kernel/power/main.c:
> 		suspend_devices_and_enter()
> 
> does the proper "disable/enable_nonboot_cpus()", but it does so without 
> having enabled CPU hotplug.
> 
> And you seem to think that it's ACPI that should enable the hotplug, even 
> though the code that actually needs it is _outside_ ACPI. And I think 
> that's wrong, and that this is a bug.
> 
> So I think the real issue is that we allow that 
> "suspend_devices_and_enter()" code to be compiled without HOTPLUG_CPU in 
> the first place. It's not supposed to work that way.
> 
> Of course, it may well be that other architectures can happily suspend 
> even with multiple CPU's active, which may be the cause of this mess. But 
> I really think it shouldn't be ACPI that has to select the CPU hotplug, 
> since it's not ACPI that _uses_ it in the first place.
> 
> Rafael: making a config option for STR (the same way we have a config 
> option for hibernate), and just not allowing it on SMP without HOTPLUG_CPU 
> seems to be the right thing. Len is right in that we do insane things 
> right now (trying to STR with multiple CPU's still active), and I just 
> don't think he's the one that should work around it!

Well, I agree and that's why I asked. :-)

OK, I'll prepare a patch to introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND, but that will require
quite a bit of (compilation) testing on different architectures.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-28 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-25 16:38 [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Len Brown
2007-07-25 16:49 ` Tino Keitel
2007-07-25 19:44   ` Len Brown
2007-07-25 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-25 22:51   ` Len Brown
2007-07-26  2:20     ` david
2007-07-26  4:26       ` Len Brown
2007-07-26  5:00         ` david
2007-07-26  6:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 17:45           ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:02             ` david
2007-07-26 18:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:27                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 18:18               ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 19:17             ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 19:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 20:48                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 20:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27 22:25                     ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Adrian Bunk
2007-07-27 22:47                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-27 23:03                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28  8:42                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-30 21:18                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-28 14:44                         ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-07-27 22:57                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28  4:52                         ` [2.6 patch] SOFTWARE_SUSPEND: handle HOTPLUG_CPU automatically Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28  9:07                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-28 18:30                       ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-28  7:30                     ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-28  7:33                       ` [PATCH] ACPI: restore CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP Len Brown
2007-07-28 16:25                       ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 16:55                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 18:29                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-07-28 18:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-29 10:20                               ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (was: CONFIG_SUSPEND?) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 10:20                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 10:21                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 10:21                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 12:38                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 12:38                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 20:40                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 20:40                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:17                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:17                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:17                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:18                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:18                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:36                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:36                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:30                                           ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-29 21:30                                           ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-29 22:22                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30 21:26                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-30 21:26                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-29 22:22                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30  2:47                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-30  2:47                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-29 21:36                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:18                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 20:40                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:23                                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:24                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:24                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:27                                   ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  4:59                                     ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  4:59                                       ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  9:15                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  9:15                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  9:16                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-31  9:16                                         ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2007-07-31 10:01                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31 10:01                                           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:27                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30  0:21                                   ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and " Linus Torvalds
2007-07-30  0:21                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-30  7:25                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30  7:25                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE Len Brown
2007-07-31  6:38                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-31  6:38                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-31  9:33                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  9:33                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-03 19:23                                         ` Len Brown
2007-08-05 18:36                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-05 18:36                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-03 19:23                                         ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` Len Brown
2007-08-01  3:27                                     ` [PATCH] ACPI: delete CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_SLEEP (again) Len Brown
2007-08-01  3:27                                       ` Len Brown
2007-08-01 10:24                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-01 10:24                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:23                                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  3:53                           ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-31  4:09                             ` david
2007-07-31  6:33                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-26 10:07         ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:05           ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:38             ` Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:53             ` defconfig , ACPI=n compile error Gabriel C
2007-07-26  7:02     ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27  6:26 ` Jan Dittmer
2007-07-27 16:25   ` Thomas Renninger
2007-07-27 23:07     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-27 23:07       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-27 23:41       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-27 23:41         ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found]       ` <617E1C2C70743745A92448908E030B2A0209BB9D@scsmsx411.amr.corp.intel.com>
2007-07-28  1:39         ` scripts/mod/file2alias.c cross compile problem Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28  1:39           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-02 15:09           ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02 15:09             ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02 16:25             ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-02 16:25               ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-02 16:25               ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-02 16:36               ` Andreas Schwab
2007-08-02 16:36                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-08-02 16:36                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-08-02 17:40                 ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-02 17:40                   ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-02 17:40                   ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-02 18:09                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-02 18:09                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-02 19:15                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-02 19:15                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-02 19:24                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-02 19:24                         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-02 19:39                         ` Al Viro
2007-08-02 19:39                           ` Al Viro
2007-08-02 22:08               ` Rusty Russell
2007-08-02 22:08                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-08-02 23:03                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-02 23:03                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-16 14:27                 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-16 14:27                   ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-16 16:26                   ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-16 16:26                     ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-16 16:26                     ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-16 17:03                     ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-16 17:03                       ` Thomas Renninger
2007-07-27 23:50   ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Andreas Schwab
2007-07-27 23:50     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-28  7:58     ` Jan Dittmer
2007-08-01  1:34       ` Yasha Okshtein

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