From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>, Simon Arlott <simon@fire.lp0.eu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>,
Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@yahoo.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Crispin Cowan <crispin@crispincowan.com>,
Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:29:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071027182911.GD4159@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0710251117k37c30b2ex5cc6d8cd8c9ea029@mail.gmail.com>
Hi!
> > > The idea that poor security is worse than no security is fallacious,
> > > and not backed up by common experience.
> >
> > There is a ton of evidence both in computing and outside of it which
> > shows that poor security can be very much worse than no security at all.
>
> (So, I take it that you *don't* lock your bike up, as poor security is
> worse than none?)
I do lock my bike with combination lock I found somewhere and cracked
in five minutes... sometimes.
But do you suggest that I use paper tape to 'lock' my bike to
streetlight? You just said that poor security is better than none,
right?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-28 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-10-18 2:18 ` LSM conversion to static interface Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 20:26 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-10-19 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-20 11:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-20 22:57 ` James Morris
2007-10-21 22:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-23 4:09 ` LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch] Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-23 4:56 ` James Morris
2007-10-23 4:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-23 5:16 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-23 9:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 9:13 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-23 9:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 0:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-24 0:32 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-24 5:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-24 11:50 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 12:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 18:11 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 18:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 18:59 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 19:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:02 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 21:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-24 21:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 22:02 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 23:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-25 1:50 ` david
2007-10-25 3:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-24 21:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:04 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-25 11:38 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 20:18 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-24 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 22:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 23:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 23:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 0:41 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25 2:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30 3:37 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25 1:03 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-25 0:23 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25 0:35 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 1:26 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-25 1:41 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-25 2:11 ` david
2007-10-25 18:17 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26 3:45 ` david
2007-10-26 5:44 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-27 18:29 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-10-28 18:48 ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 19:05 ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 22:08 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-28 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-26 20:42 ` serge
2007-10-28 23:55 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-29 5:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-25 9:19 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25 16:04 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 17:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30 9:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25 1:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-27 18:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-28 19:42 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 3:23 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-30 8:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 8:50 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 9:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 9:21 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25 11:44 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-25 23:09 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26 2:56 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 7:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-26 15:54 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 9:46 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26 15:58 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 16:32 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-27 14:07 ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: Linux Security *Module* Framework) Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 1:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-26 23:26 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Adrian Bunk
2007-10-27 14:47 ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Module* Framework) Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-27 17:31 ` eradicating out of tree modules Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 0:55 ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Module* Framework) Adrian Bunk
2007-10-28 9:25 ` eradicating out of tree modules Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 12:01 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 14:37 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 14:59 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-28 16:55 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 18:51 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 19:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-30 0:29 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-30 13:11 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-30 13:19 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-10-30 15:30 ` Greg KH
2007-10-29 23:51 ` Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framework] Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 0:46 ` Lee Revell
2007-10-30 1:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-27 14:08 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-05 6:42 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-23 9:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 5:44 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-23 8:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 9:14 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-10-23 9:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-23 15:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-25 10:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-19 21:07 ` James Morris
2007-10-22 1:12 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-29 10:01 Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 10:24 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-29 13:32 ` Peter Dolding
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-29 19:04 Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 19:41 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 5:13 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-30 18:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 19:14 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-30 19:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 23:38 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 0:16 ` david
2007-10-31 2:21 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 3:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-31 5:08 ` david
2007-10-31 6:43 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-31 9:03 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 10:10 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-11-01 2:04 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01 2:20 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-01 2:51 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01 7:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-01 11:49 ` David Newall
2007-11-04 1:28 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-05 6:56 ` Andrew Morgan
2007-11-05 13:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-29 20:27 ` Casey Schaufler
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