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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:09:30 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710272009.31430.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071026205714.GQ17536@waste.org>

On Saturday 27 October 2007 06:57:14 Matt Mackall wrote:
> Well I expect once you start letting people easily build strings by
> concatenation, you'll very shortly afterwards have people using them
> in loops.  And having hidden O(n^2) behavior in there is a little sad, 
> even though n will tend to be small and well-bounded. If we can do
> something simple to avoid it, we should.

Hi Matt,

        I avoid typing even a single character of optimization until it's 
justified.  This is partially a reaction against the machoptimization 
tendencies of many kernel programmers, but it's mainly a concern at the 
kernel's complexity creep.

Meanwhile, of course, I've now spent far too long analyzing this :)

Building a 1000 byte string 1 byte at a time involves 6 reallocs (SLAB) or 10 
reallocs (SLUB).  Frankly, that's good enough without an explicit alloc 
length field (better in some ways).

As to keeping an explicit length vs strlen(): those 1000 calls on my test 
machine take 1491ns per call with an explicit length vs 1496ns per call with 
strlen().  That's not worth 4 bytes, let alone a single line of code, O(n^2) 
or no.

As the nail in the coffin, callers only use ->buf, so are insulated from any 
such optimizations if we decided to do them in future.

Hope that helps,
Rusty.
PS.  I don't think we should switch this to a simple char ** tho, as 
the "struct stringbuf" gives us some type safety and reminds people not to 
simply kfree it.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-27 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-24 19:58 Stringbuf, v2 Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59   ` [PATCH 2/4] isdn: Use stringbuf Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59     ` [PATCH 3/4] sound: " Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59       ` [PATCH 4/4] partitions: Fix non-atomic printk Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 20:59   ` [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation Kyle Moffett
2007-10-24 21:21     ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-25  0:07       ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-25  3:23         ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-26  2:11   ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-26  3:41     ` Joe Perches
2007-10-26  5:05       ` Joe Perches
2007-10-26 11:57     ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-26 20:57       ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-27 10:09         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2007-10-29  3:03           ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-29  5:38             ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-27 11:47     ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-27 12:50       ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-27 16:34         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-27 16:48           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 20:51 ` Stringbuf, v2 Joe Perches
2007-10-24 20:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 21:06     ` Joe Perches
2007-10-24 21:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-23 21:12 [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-23 22:11 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-24  1:49   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 15:20     ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-24 15:30       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-23 23:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-24  2:30   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24  2:45     ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-24  2:19 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-10-24  2:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24  2:48     ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-10-24 13:21 ` Florian Weimer
2007-10-24 14:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-26 12:05 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-27  7:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-30 15:26 ` Denys Vlasenko

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